[FT] Can't access FT Computer Core

2 posts ยท Dec 1 2000 to Dec 4 2000

From: Gregory Wong <sax@s...>

Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 14:41:41 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [FT] Can't access FT Computer Core

Thanks for the help.

I was able to access
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Station/3565/index.html
with JavaScript turned off. However, without JavaScript enabled, I
can't click on the e-mail button under Feedback.  I wanted to
point out these access problems. So, if the webmaster for the FT Computer Core
website reads this, could you please modify your
page so that I can access it with JavaScript turned on?   Or have some
other way of allow us to send feedback with JavaScript turned off.

Or tell me what I'm missing here.

Thanks.

--Greg
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:49 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09350;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:38:53 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB1Na8b22998;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:36:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 15:36:05 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB1Na3l22883
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:36:03 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:G5pzKN2xWwoiinXqHm1Cn50VWaQ71m4W@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB1Na1P22856
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:36:01
-0800 (PST)
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB1Na0f16372
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:36:00 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from s_schoon@pacbell.net)
Received: from [63.201.228.86] by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail
Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id
<0G4W00B3FWP3CI@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for
 gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu; Fri,  1 Dec 2000 15:17:28 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 15:20:00 -0800
From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [FT] Defsats - next question
In-reply-to:
<417DEC289A05D4118408000102362E0A34CF9C@host-253.bitheads.com>
X-Sender: s_schoon@postoffice.pacbell.net
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Message-id: <p04320409b64de1dc86e8@[63.201.228.86]>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
References:
<417DEC289A05D4118408000102362E0A34CF9C@host-253.bitheads.com>
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de0000066e

> A) Build with Thrust 0 (only able to orbit) but presume this allows you

Actually I'd say that (D) Build with 0 thrust and can either not rotate, or
can have a set rotation (not changeable) throughout the game

> C) Build with Thrust 1 (only use to rotate though....) and build with

This would work, but you could also use that Thrust 1 to slightly alter
position (very slowly!)

> Following on to this strain of thought.... how fast would these babies

As fast as you want, and yes, respectively.

Schoon
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:43 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08877;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:35:26 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB1NUnc20926;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:30:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 15:30:47 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB1NUiG20824
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:30:44 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:EGv8B1N3ULWAXhYLLtQSxaj74AIIvYhW@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB1NUhP20808
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:30:43
-0800 (PST)
Received: from smtp04.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM
[63.208.208.73])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB1NUgf15342
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:30:42 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from nsweer@ice.net)
Received: (qmail 15397 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 23:30:30 -0000
Received: from maxbloom1-88.fgi.net (HELO ice.net) ([204.120.168.88])
(envelope-sender <nsweer@ice.net>)
          by 10.209.20.34 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
          for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; 1 Dec 2000 23:30:30 -0000
Message-ID: <3A28333D.6040404@ice.net>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:24:45 -0600
From: Noel Weer <nsweer@ice.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108
Netscape6/6.0
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Phalon only supplement
References: <OE112XtthrZgYrjGR5e00001f3b@hotmail.com>
<200012011539.KAA17716@okura.cowell.org>
<20001201165102.A1860@pds.twi.tudelft.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de0000066a

Speaking of inspiration for ships, has anyone seen any figures inspired
by/related to the tv show "Space: Above and Beyond"? One thing that
program had that was cool was its ships....

> Frits Kuijlman wrote:

> Andy Cowell wrote:

--
The Middle Ages were a great time to be alive, because if you weren't wiped
out by the Plague or impaled by some marauding barbarian, then yippee.
"chocolate covered musings"
      (http://www.amused.com/nick.html)
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:48 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09113;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:37:10 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB1NXN321248;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:33:23 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 15:33:21 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB1NXIj21227
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:33:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:kj5LAWso4hPXifgMSc+0MFNC0dPRiSnu@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB1NXGP21222
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:33:17
-0800 (PST)
Received: from smtp06.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM
[63.208.208.73])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB1NXFf15820
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:33:15 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from nsweer@ice.net)
Received: (qmail 14049 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 23:33:00 -0000
Received: from maxbloom1-88.fgi.net (HELO ice.net) ([204.120.168.88])
(envelope-sender <nsweer@ice.net>)
          by 10.209.20.36 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
          for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; 1 Dec 2000 23:33:00 -0000
Message-ID: <3A2833F8.3060208@ice.net>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:27:52 -0600
From: Noel Weer <nsweer@ice.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108
Netscape6/6.0
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [OT] Starship Troopers
References: <9DB05BB477A8D111AF3F00805F5730100D1006AD@exchange01.dscc.dla.mil>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de0000066c

A friend I know had a copy, and I fiddled with it for a bit. Avoid it like the
plague. The interface almost completely unworkable.

> Bell, Brian K wrote:

> I took a quick look at the box a couple of days ago. The pictures on
themselves
> on their PCs.

--
The Middle Ages were a great time to be alive, because if you weren't wiped
out by the Plague or impaled by some marauding barbarian, then yippee.
"chocolate covered musings"
      (http://www.amused.com/nick.html)
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:48 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09339;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:38:48 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB1NYxj21581;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:34:59 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 15:34:57 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB1NYtL21441
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:34:55 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:RcmN93axTyTU2zXjpNefpWgCVqUk80W9@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB1NYrP21431
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:34:53
-0800 (PST)
Received: from smtp04.mail.onemain.com (SMTP-OUT003.ONEMAIN.COM
[63.208.208.73])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB1NYrf16097
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:34:53 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from nsweer@ice.net)
Received: (qmail 6189 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2000 23:34:46 -0000
Received: from maxbloom1-88.fgi.net (HELO ice.net) ([204.120.168.88])
(envelope-sender <nsweer@ice.net>)
          by 10.209.20.34 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
          for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; 1 Dec 2000 23:34:46 -0000
Message-ID: <3A283482.6040704@ice.net>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:30:10 -0600
From: Noel Weer <nsweer@ice.net>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108
Netscape6/6.0
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Winter War 28
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012010802360.25137-100000@poppc.stsci.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de0000066d

I would love to come... but RL(tm) and distances involved tend to impeded any
plans along that angle. Is there ever a GZG event that is not on the East
Coast?

> Mark Kochte wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000, Noel Weer wrote:

> mercenaries to keep the local government from seizing an office

> infantry control of the town and the building, but ultimately lost

--
The Middle Ages were a great time to be alive, because if you weren't wiped
out by the Plague or impaled by some marauding barbarian, then yippee.
"chocolate covered musings"
      (http://www.amused.com/nick.html)
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:49 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA25693;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:17:58 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB20GQb52000;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:16:26 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 16:16:23 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB20GLU51950
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:16:21 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:tBXgXCeWF4eaGM2UMDs9mCDDoJjLqbr7@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB20GJP51945
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:16:19
-0800 (PST)
Received: from unebmail.uneb.edu ([199.240.194.41])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB20GFf24132
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:16:19 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from devans@uneb.edu)
Subject: SAaB AND Other venues Re: Phalon only supplement AND Winter War
28
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5  September 22, 2000
Message-ID: <OF3BFEDA2B.AACB51AB-ON862569A9.0000301C@uneb.edu>
From: devans@uneb.edu
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:18:37 -0600
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on UNEBMAIL/Servers/UNEBR(Release 5.0.5
|September 22, 2000) at
 12/01/2000 06:18:42 PM
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de0000066f

GZG-UK has UNSC Hammer fighters that have a definitely hammerhead shape,
though you'll realize these are FT-size fighters. Stellardyne had, IMHO,
the closest to Saratoga-style ships, and we're still waiting for Dean to
let us know if/when they'll be available. ;->=

There's a regular WCC(West Coast Convention) of GZG systems, but you'll
usually find some GZG in most moderate and larger cons. GenCon has a pretty
awesome representation, and if I ever get my poop in a group, so will other
mid-continent cons I attend. Keep watching the list; members usually
announce cons they're attending and/or running.

The_Beast

-Douglas J. Evans, curmudgeon

One World, one Web, one Program - Microsoft promotional ad
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Fuhrer - Adolf Hitler
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:52 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21013;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:41:58 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB22f7400468;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:41:07 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 18:41:06 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB22f5400447
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:41:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:TC+324vcibbEO5Ti/ZdIJ51rKO3LPrrA@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB22f3P00442
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:41:03
-0800 (PST)
Received: from mail9.wlv.netzero.net (mail9.wlv.netzero.net
[209.247.163.66])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB22f3f50682
        for <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:41:03 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from jessecasey@netzero.net)
Received: (qmail 8067 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2000 02:40:53 -0000
Received: from ip9.san-angelo2.tx.pub-ip.psi.net (HELO casey)
(38.31.16.9)
  by mail9.wlv.netzero.net with SMTP; 2 Dec 2000 02:40:53 -0000
Message-ID: <000201c05c09$638cb240$09101f26@casey>
From: "Jesse Casey" <jessecasey@netzero.net>
To: "GZG-L" <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Subject: [OT] BORG 1.0
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:29:49 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000677

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1043000/1043001.stm

_____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______
   http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:50 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28433;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:32:48 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB20V5h67936;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:31:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 16:31:02 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB20V0f67902
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:31:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:nsjodQ0WW6492WvOQX4ZGgzr5wp0Vgyl@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB20UwP67882
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:30:58
-0800 (PST)
Received: from mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (mailout3-1.nyroc.rr.com
[24.92.226.168])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB20Uuf27306
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:30:56 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from davisje@nycap.rr.com)
Received: from nycap.rr.com (cm-24-161-48-67.nycap.rr.com
[24.161.48.67])
        by mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16083
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:18:56 -0500
(EST)
Message-ID: <3A2842E2.26B61853@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 19:31:30 -0500
From: Jon Davis <davisje@nycap.rr.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Winter War 28 & Cold Wars
References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012010746400.25137-100000@poppc.stsci.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000670

> Mark Kochte wrote:

Cold Wars is scheduled on March 9-11 in Lancaster.  ECC IV is scheduled
for
March 2-4, a difference of one week.

We tried to get the earlier weekend at the hotel so we'd have a two week

difference, but that wasn't possible this year.

Jon
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:50 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA31168;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:47:01 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB20fIB75373;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:41:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 16:41:16 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB20fE775308
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:41:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:lCpaZJoOAIJeDSBJVOqc73fwTHvR63oI@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB20fCP75291
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:41:12
-0800 (PST)
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB20fCf28999
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:41:12 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from s_schoon@pacbell.net)
Received: from [63.201.228.86] by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail
Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id
<0G4X00AMO04VP0@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for
 gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu; Fri,  1 Dec 2000 16:31:44 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 16:34:16 -0800
From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [FT] Orbits/Defsats, etc.
In-reply-to:
<417DEC289A05D4118408000102362E0A34CF85@host-253.bitheads.com>
X-Sender: s_schoon@postoffice.pacbell.net
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Message-id: <p0432040eb64deb16b217@[63.201.228.86]>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
References:
<417DEC289A05D4118408000102362E0A34CF85@host-253.bitheads.com>
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000671

> But the key question here is how tight can I have my orbit be and NOT

OK, it is generally reckoned that the Earth's atmosphere extends to
about 1000 km above the surface, though the ionosphere (50-1000 km)
is relatively thin.

In your game terms, that would be 1" out from the surface of your planet.

Thus, any orbit of r=8 game inches or higher would be "stable."

As for your formula requests (these assume a mass equal to earth):

r=(2.16*10^4)*T^2/3, where T is measured in seconds, results in meters

...or assuming 15 minute turns as well:

r=(2.32)*t^2/3, where t is in 15 minute game turns, results in game
inches

T=(3.15*10^(-7))*r^3/2, where T is in seconds and r in meters

t=(3.5*10^(-1))*r^3/2, r in game inches, results in 15 minute game turns

You loose some accuracy by using the "ultra-simplified" versions.

Schoon
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:51 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11777;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:57:47 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB21ugG99501;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:56:42 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 17:56:40 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB21ucA99480
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:56:38 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:bmCmjh73mDSVutdySi437z+K3QQ9r9gr@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB21ubP99474
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:56:37
-0800 (PST)
Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net
[209.226.175.25])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB21uaf42368
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:56:36 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from awg@sympatico.ca)
Received: from ppp15841.on.bellglobal.com ([206.172.141.161])
          by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net
          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP
          id
<20001202015630.LRZK22808.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ppp15841.on.bellglob
al.com>
          for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:56:30 -0500
From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Building 'unusual' starships
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 20:54:57 -0500
Organization: Haphazard at best.
Message-ID: <68lg2tkdtgttfi6jj97386s9j75ikjdieq@4ax.com>
References: <OF932D12F6.37125B6E-ON862569A7.0013B628@uneb.edu>
<3A2756F9.FB901D3@ACD.net>
In-Reply-To: <3A2756F9.FB901D3@ACD.net>
X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
scotch.csua.berkeley.edu id eB21ubP99475
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000673

On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 02:44:57 -0500, Donald Hosford
<Hosford.Donald@acd.net> wrote:

> What if you "painted" plain old white glue (elmers, ect.) over the wood

Quite possibly. I read on rec.games.miniatures.misc (or historical) that you
can make soft plastic miniatures (ERTL, Airfix, Revell, ESCI) more rigid for
painting by spraying them first with spray adhesive. This is essentially white
glue as an aerosol. I suspect it would work on wood, too, though you may have
to do a couple of coats.

Allan Goodall awg@sympatico.ca
Goodall's Grotto:  http://www.vex.net/~agoodall

"Surprisingly, when you throw two naked women with sex toys into a living room
full of drunken men, things
always go bad." - Kyle Baker, "You Are Here"
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:51 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13864;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:07:50 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB2268v99790;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:06:08 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 18:06:07 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB2266i99769
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:06:06 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:CwgQyUONO8s9CCUY2gfYXDd8M3CckgkZ@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB2265P99764
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:06:05
-0800 (PST)
Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB2264f44439
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:06:04 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from Popeyesays@aol.com)
Received: from Popeyesays@aol.com
        by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.34.) id d.30.d5c6a65 (3701)
         for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:05:43 -0500
(EST)
From: Popeyesays@aol.com
Message-ID: <30.d5c6a65.2759b2f7@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:05:43 EST
Subject: Re: Building 'unusual' starships
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="part1_30.d5c6a65.2759b2f7_boundary"
Content-Disposition: Inline
X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000674

--part1_30.d5c6a65.2759b2f7_boundary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In a message dated 12/1/00 7:57:08 PM Central Standard Time,
awg@sympatico.ca writes:

> Quite possibly. I read on rec.games.miniatures.misc (or historical)
that you
> can make soft plastic miniatures (ERTL, Airfix, Revell, ESCI) more

I have a friend who extracts some of the plastic resin from these figures by
soaking them for 24 hours in bleach, then 24 hours in ammonia - then
washing them with soap and water. I rely on several coats of gloss overcoat
and find that works just fine.

--part1_30.d5c6a65.2759b2f7_boundary
Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated
12/1/00 7:57:
08 PM Central Standard Time, awg@sympatico.ca <BR>writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
MARGIN-LEFT: 5
px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Quite possibly. I read on
rec.games.m iniatures.misc (or historical) that you <BR>can make soft plastic
miniatures (ERTL, Airfix, Revell, ESCI) more rigid fo r <BR>painting by
spraying them first with spray adhesive. This is essentially <B R>white
<BR>glue as an aerosol. I suspect it would work on wood, too, though you may
<B R>have
<BR>to do a couple of coats. </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>I have a friend who extracts some of the plastic resin from these figures
b
y <BR>soaking them for 24 hours in bleach, then 24 hours in ammonia -
then wash ing <BR>them with soap and water. I rely on several coats of gloss
overcoat and
 find <BR>that works just fine.</FONT></HTML>

--part1_30.d5c6a65.2759b2f7_boundary--
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:52 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14823;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:12:34 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB22Am500105;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:10:48 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 18:10:47 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB22AkP99982
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:10:46 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:WNJidFpMEvEQleoWTTQlFsk7njvVbT6Y@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB22AjP99977
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:10:45
-0800 (PST)
Received: from tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts5.bellnexxia.net
[209.226.175.25])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB22Aif45131
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:10:44 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from awg@sympatico.ca)
Received: from ppp15841.on.bellglobal.com ([206.172.141.161])
          by tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net
          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP
          id
<20001202021038.LTYO22808.tomts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@ppp15841.on.bellglob
al.com>
          for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:10:38 -0500
From: Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca>
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [FT] Alternate Core Systems
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 21:09:05 -0500
Organization: Haphazard at best.
Message-ID: <famg2tc5k7pgj0q9hqndhn1i7eb2mesq9m@4ax.com>
References: <6B3C0EEAB4FED3119F5F009027DC5E9EA9ACF9@spacemsg3.jhuapl.edu>
In-Reply-To:
<6B3C0EEAB4FED3119F5F009027DC5E9EA9ACF9@spacemsg3.jhuapl.edu>
X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by
scotch.csua.berkeley.edu id eB22AjP99978
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000675

On Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:15:32 -0500 , "Izenberg, Noam"
> <Noam.Izenberg@jhuapl.edu> wrote:

> A long time ago, someone generated alternate, less catastrophic rules

Well, the way I did it is pretty simple. You can find it on my web site at:

http://www.vex.net/~agoodall/ft.htm

Click on the "Core Systems" link under House Rules.

For the person looking for the FB errata, I have the errata for both fleet
books on the site, too.

Allan Goodall awg@sympatico.ca
Goodall's Grotto:  http://www.vex.net/~agoodall

"Surprisingly, when you throw two naked women with sex toys into a living room
full of drunken men, things
always go bad." - Kyle Baker, "You Are Here"
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:53 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21932;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:45:24 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB22ihq00540;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:44:43 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 18:44:42 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB22ifL00519
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:44:41 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:Ch+VUwtJv3xXZV+7c0CIKnRUrxVgdB2Z@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB22ieP00514
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:44:40
-0800 (PST)
Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB22idf51098
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:44:39 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from s_schoon@pacbell.net)
Received: from [63.201.228.86] by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail
Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id
<0G4X002V95YFRB@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for
 gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu; Fri,  1 Dec 2000 18:37:28 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 18:40:00 -0800
From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <s_schoon@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [FT] Alternate Core Systems
In-reply-to: <famg2tc5k7pgj0q9hqndhn1i7eb2mesq9m@4ax.com>
X-Sender: s_schoon@postoffice.pacbell.net
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Message-id: <p04320410b64e1146ab66@[63.201.228.86]>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
References: <6B3C0EEAB4FED3119F5F009027DC5E9EA9ACF9@spacemsg3.jhuapl.edu>
<famg2tc5k7pgj0q9hqndhn1i7eb2mesq9m@4ax.com>
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000678

> http://www.vex.net/~agoodall/ft.htm

Very nice. I like this little modification very much.

Schoon
From - Mon Dec 04 11:29:53 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA24652;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:59:17 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB22vqm00712;
        Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:57:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Fri, 1 Dec
2000 18:57:50 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB22vnf00691
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:57:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:+UKq00PrzbPD3g2QOR9d9nH7pjjf/i4V@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB22vmP00686
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:57:48
-0800 (PST)
Received: from stsci.edu (tnm.stsci.edu [130.167.1.235])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB22vlf53355
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:57:47 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from kochte@stsci.edu)
Received: by stsci.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-DNI-8.0)
        id VAA01936; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:57:45 -0500
Received: from poppc.stsci.edu(130.167.236.100) by tnm.stsci.edu via
smtp-stsci
 (V2.1)
        id xma001929; Fri, 1 Dec 00 21:57:24 -0500
Received: from localhost by poppc (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4)
        id VAA27215; Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:57:20 -0500 (EST)
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:57:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Kochte <kochte@stsci.edu>
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Winter War 28
In-Reply-To: <3A283482.6040704@ice.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0012012155400.26147-100000@poppc.stsci.edu>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de00000679

> On Fri, 1 Dec 2000, Noel Weer wrote:

> I would love to come... but RL(tm) and distances involved tend to

GZG West Coast Con??  :-)  Run by Ted Arlauskis, the first GZGWCC
was earlier this past October. I understand it went quite well
and there will be a GZGWCC II.  :-)

Mk

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:55:21 -0000

Subject: [FT] Can't access FT Computer Core

> > http://www.geocities.com/fullthrustweb/

which is a lie as the syle sheet is there
does this work http://www.geocities.com/fullthrustweb/index.html?
which is the actual Core page.

> > http://www.geocities.com/fullthrustweb/faq-index.html

and it uses the same style sheet as the core page.

> I tried downloading some of the CG models from Thrust Pack at

This is homestead being funny the files are there. When I have time (after
decorating the lounge and sons birthday party) I'm moving it all to some new
web space with 155mbs access.

> This comes out in almost unreadable black-on-dark-blue, which

I see white text you must be overiding the page in the browser.

--
Tim
From - Mon Dec 04 11:30:52 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06834;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:04:31 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB4G1aI65618;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:01:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 4 Dec
2000 08:01:34 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB4G1XK65596
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:01:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from cambr-exch1.adaptivebroadband.com
(berlin.adaptivebroadband.com [193.131.186.254])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB4G1VP65591
        for <gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:01:32
-0800 (PST)
Received: by cambr-exch1.cambridge.adaptivebroadband.com with Internet
Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
        id <W4S12NKK>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:01:26 -0000
Message-ID:
<35940AC31FFCD311AAF8009027D0D07D537B84@cambr-exch1.cambridge.adaptivebr
oadband.com>
From: "Jones, Tim" <tjones@adaptivebroadband.com>
To: "'gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu'" <gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RE: [FT] Can't access FT Computer Core
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:01:25 -0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de000006d9

> <link rel="stylesheet" href="STYLE.CSS">

Thanks brian

this may be confusing NS4.7 I'll change it, NS6 copes.

--
Tim
From - Mon Dec 04 11:30:36 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29520;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 07:04:47 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB4D4Rd61188;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 05:04:27 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 4 Dec
2000 05:04:23 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB4D4Mm61166
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 05:04:22 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:kP1txsufqjnUeSEpJdDLKoP8LrfCKjGS@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB4D4LP61161
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 05:04:21
-0800 (PST)
Received: from smtp1.quixnet.net (psmtp1.array3.laserlink.net
[63.65.123.51] (may be forged))
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB4D4Kf47306
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 05:04:20 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from laserlight@quixnet.net)
Received: from pavilion (1Cust236.tnt8.princess-anne.va.da.uu.net
[63.26.238.236])
        by smtp1.quixnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA06671
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 13:04:18 GMT
Message-ID: <002901c05e0b$b4b3b020$ecee1a3f@pavilion>
From: "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
To: <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
References: <20001204110112.MAVT28304.mss.rdc2.nsw.optushome.com.au@matrix>
Subject: Re: Unofficial Official Lists?
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:03:11 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de000006c4

Morgan said:
> I'm looking for fairly comprehensive, and fairly navigatable and

The Islamic Fed fleet has miniatures for escorts and battleships and nothing
in between at the moment. You can either take designs from my
web page at www.angelfire.com/va/laserlight/  (which were done before
the miniatures), or I can send you designs that are intended to be compatible
with the minis.

One of the designs is the ash Shaulah sting boat, mass 8, thrust 6,
1FCS, 1 hull box,  and 4 mass of weapons--2 needles, 4 submunitions, 2
B2, 1 SMR...it works out to 30 points IIRC, plus 10% to account for
being non-FTL, so you get 30 per 1000 points.  I'd be interested to
hear reports on how well it works. The other designs are a bit less
aggressive.
From - Mon Dec 04 11:30:53 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07444;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:05:41 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB4G4pd65775;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:04:51 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 4 Dec
2000 08:04:50 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB4G4n365754
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:04:49 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:g5OB+lxZVOPK8hxPzsY81w+hnrzlWB7X@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB4G4lP65749
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:04:47
-0800 (PST)
Received: from exchange01.dscc.dla.mil (exchange01.dscc.dla.mil
[131.74.160.11])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB4G4hf69403
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:04:44 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from Brian_Bell@dscc.dla.mil)
Received: by exchange01.dscc.dla.mil with Internet Mail Service
(5.5.2653.19)
        id <W6J8M72Z>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:04:33 -0500
Message-ID:
<9DB05BB477A8D111AF3F00805F5730100D1006C2@exchange01.dscc.dla.mil>
From: "Bell, Brian K" <Brian_Bell@dscc.dla.mil>
To: "'gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu'" <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RE: [FT] Can't access FT Computer Core
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:04:29 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
Content-Type: text/plain
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de000006da

As I said I got  http://www.geocities.com/fullthrustweb/index.html to
work. But if you don't include the index.html, it brings up the 404 page for
STYLE.CSS. The problem may be that you included the reference to the style
sheet TWICE on the index.html page:

</style><link rel="stylesheet" href="STYLE.CSS"><link rel="stylesheet"
href="Style.css"></head>

-----
Brian Bell
brian_bell@dscc.dla.mil
brian.bell@integic.com Integic Corporation for DSCC 614.692.4794 Voice
614.693.1503 Fax 850.4794 DSN
-----

> -----Original Message-----
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07714;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:07:46 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB4G7JE66029;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:07:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 4 Dec
2000 08:07:18 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB4G7Gn66006
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:07:16 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:jxVGCD3vwBgmY/vS/pBlsvyKnRIMKNtS@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB4G7FP66001
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:07:15
-0800 (PST)
Received: from kuju.com ([212.134.167.6])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with SMTP id
eB4G7Df69787
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:07:14 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from tony.francis@kuju.com)
Received: from kuju.com ([192.111.111.94]) by kuju.com ( IA Mail Server
Version: 3.2.2. Build: 1087 ) ) ; Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:13:54 +0000
Message-ID: <3A2BC0C3.FCC46433@kuju.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:05:23 +0000
From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@kuju.com>
Organization: Kuju Entertainment
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; I)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [FT] Can't access FT Computer Core
References:
<35940AC31FFCD311AAF8009027D0D07D537B83@cambr-exch1.cambridge.adaptivebr
oadband.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de000006dc

> "Jones, Tim" wrote:

Nope - same error (can't find style.css)

Just a wild stab in the dark - it's not a case problem, is it ? The
error is exactly as above, eg all lower case except for STYLE.CSS.

Tony
From - Mon Dec 04 11:30:53 2000
Return-Path: <owner-gzg-l@scotch.csua.berkeley.edu>
Received: from scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (scotch.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.51])
        by lilac.propagation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07641;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:07:02 -0600
Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id
eB4G6IQ65923;
        Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (bulk_mailer v1.12); Mon, 4 Dec
2000 08:06:16 -0800
Received: (from majordom@localhost)
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eB4G6Ep65887
        for gzg-l-outgoing; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:14 -0800 (PST)
Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu
(IDENT:SiKGmmpI1qossDt20b6/tHjFI9YyHP3S@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
[128.32.43.52])
        by scotch.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id
eB4G6CP65882
        for <gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:12
-0800 (PST)
Received: from beta.verity.com (beta.verity.com [192.187.143.12])
        by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.0/8.11.1) with ESMTP id
eB4G6Cf69650
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:12 -0800
(PST)
        (envelope-from jfox@superfine.verity.com)
Received: from mx-rr.verity.com ([10.3.100.59])
        by beta.verity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA24732
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:06 -0800
(PST)
Received: from mx-rr.verity.com (mx-rr.verity.com [10.3.100.59])
        by mx-rr.verity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA25684
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:06 -0800
(PST)
Received: from superfine.verity.com (superfine.verity.com [10.3.100.10])
by mx-rr.verity.com with SMTP (MailShield v1.5); Mon, 04 Dec 2000
08:06:06 -0800
Received: from mainsheet.verity.com (mainsheet.verity.com [10.4.10.109])
        by superfine.verity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA23515
        for <gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu>; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:05 -0800
(PST)
Received: from mainsheet by mainsheet.verity.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4)
        id IAA17170; Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:05 -0800
Message-Id: <200012041606.IAA17170@mainsheet.verity.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 08:06:05 -0800 (PST)
From: John Fox <jfox@verity.com>
Subject: New Planet in Solar System
To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-MD5: zwux+4vPCL3W88voziljXg==
X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4m sparc
Sender: owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Reply-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Delivered-To: gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Status:
X-Mozilla-Status: 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-UIDL: 39d245de000006db

Hello Everyone: Saw this about a new planet in our solar system. I thought you
guys (and gals) might want to read it.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1054000/1054157.stm