[FT] AAR -- Cygnus Fleet Proving Exercise - Designs

2 posts ยท Apr 28 2000 to Apr 30 2000

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:34:45 +0200

Subject: Re: [FT] AAR -- Cygnus Fleet Proving Exercise - Designs

You lot thought you'd get away with *this*, did you? <G>

I've been following the game for some time, but I've only seen the designs
after they were knocked out... <g> Brian, not sure if I said so before but I
liked the report format a lot.

Some notes on the designs used:

Brian's design checking spreadsheet seems to round fractional hull boxes down
instead of to the nearest, so several designs have a hull box less than they
had paid for. Not that it mattered much; from what I could see in the fleet
histories many of them were quite convincingly overkilled anyway <g>

Apart from that there are some minor glitches (or typos on the web page):

Archamedies-class CVE (Fleet Aron): 1 Mass unused (paid for at 5 points
- can't be a Kra'Vak scattergun though, since the rules specify Human
tech only <g>). Under FB2 this ship would be TMF 142/NPV 506; under FB1
it'd be TMF 141/NPV 503, with 28 hull boxes.

Epoc-class CE (Fleet Aron): Uses 1 weapon Mass too few (which it has
paid for); it looks as if it should have one more PDS or Class-1
battery.

NCC-class Nova Cruiser (Fleet Brendan): This design as listed uses 2
Mass and 8 points too many. However, since it only has 2 weapons and those
weapons can't be fired on the same turn I suspect that the 4xFCS listed is a
typo; with 2xFCS instead the TMF and NPV agree with those stated.

Zeus-class SDN (Fleet Dominic): Brian told me that this design had to
remove 11 Mass of weapons in order to reduce the total fleet cost to 2500
points, but I'd be interested to see the original weapon mix.

Artemis-class CH (Fleet Dominic): Hull rounding problem; should have 23
hull boxes.

The Triream and Cyclops classes (both Fleet Random Effect) both suffer from
the rounding error; they should have 18 and 7 hull boxes respectively to fit
into their TFM and NPV values.

The Gorgon and Medusa classes both use 1 Mass too many; they are TMF 91, NPV
329 and 331 respectively.

Stray Cat's Oklahoma City and Aegis classes both suffered from the hull
rounding problem; they should have 35 and 13 hull boxes respectively.

An interesting battle. I wonder, though... did any of the other players
realise just how brittle Noam's ships were? It seems that Noam managed to stay
out of range of the fleets that were allowed to shoot at him, though <g>

Later,

Later,

From: BDShatswell@a...

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:05:47 EDT

Subject: Re: [FT] AAR -- Cygnus Fleet Proving Exercise - Designs

In a message dated 4/28/00 3:51:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
> oerjan.ohlson@telia.com writes:

<< An interesting battle. I wonder, though... did any of the other players
realise just how brittle Noam's ships were? It seems that Noam managed to stay
out of range of the fleets that were allowed to shoot at him, though <g> >>

I had a feeling that they might have been balloons once I saw the range at
which he was firing. I even turned around once to try to charge into Noam's
formation, but I feared that in the time spent decelerating, my fleet would be
holed like so much swiss cheese. Looking back (always easy to do), my fleet
could have fared well against Fleet Random Effect if I could have met him head
on. My inexperience with vector (like Aron, this was my first attempt) cost me
dearly. Instead of going through with my gut instinct, I turned back around
and decided to avoid Noam's ships in favor of Aron's.
 My
hope then was that Noam would pick on Brendan while I got my velocity under
control and prepared to fight Aron. Unfortunately, I realized too late that I
was not going to be able to slow down. This Okie was reminded (not so

fondly) of his first experience with ice skates!

I wanted to build ships that could stay around long enough to deliver a steady
pounding to several opponents. My hope was to be able to use the

damage control afforded by the strong hulls in between opponents.

Here is my fleet a la Sam Reynolds' Armageddon Outfitters Fleet Book Ship
Design program:

New Jersey class SDN (Missouri, Iowa) Mass 186 Cost 617 Hull Strong FTL Std MD
4 Hull Armor 0
Damage 74; 19/19/18/18
Systems
 2 x Screen
 3 x FCS
 4 x PDS
Pulse Torpedo Launcher FP F FS
Beam / 3 FP F FS
Beam / 3 FP F AP
Beam / 3 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 1 All
Beam / 1 All

Oklahoma City class CH (Atlanta, Augusta, Helena, San Diego) Mass 87 Cost 289
Hull Strong FTL Std MD 4 Hull Armor 0
Damage 34; 9/9/8/8
Systems
 1 x Screen
 2 x FCS
 2 x PDS
Pulse Torpedo Launcher FP F FS
Beam / 3 FP F FS
Beam / 2 F FS AS
Beam / 2 FP F AP
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS

Aegis class ES (Aegis) Mass 32 Cost 109 Hull Strong FTL Std MD 4 Hull Armor 0
Damage 13; 4/3/3/3
Systems
 1 x FCS
 1 x ADFC
 6 x PDS
Beam / 1 FP F FS AP A AS