Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

14 posts ยท Dec 30 1999 to Jan 13 2000

From: Neil <rppl@p...>

Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:50:50 -0800

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> > FFG appears to be quite heavily used.

Actually we use DDG, I know because I am serving on one.

From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:55:05 -0500

Subject: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

OK, I've changed the sheet once again, now (at the expense of the transports)
you've got a choice between CA and CH for Heavy Cruisers.

However, what about Heavy Frigates (FH and FA?) and Heavy Destroyers (DH and
DA?) Do they get the same treatment? I certainly like that designation better
than FFH and DDH, which I'm using now.

Tom

From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:05:16 -0500

Subject: RE: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them.

Jon

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From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:33:35 -0800

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> However, what about Heavy Frigates (FH and FA?) and Heavy Destroyers

I'd say yes.

FB lists Heavy destroyers as DH, so FH would follow.

From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:38:27 -0500

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote:

I must have missed that in the first pass, it does indeed! Well then, I feel
better now.

Tom

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:11:14 EST

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

In a message dated 1/12/2000 6:29:23 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> davisje@crd.ge.com writes:

> I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them.

The FF and DD designations are only used in the USN to denote when there is no
other designator. So you'll never (in the USN) run acrros a FFH or a FFG they
would be FH and FG.
-Stephen

From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:29:02 -0500

Subject: RE: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

FFG appears to be quite heavily used.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/ship-ffg.html
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/ship-dd.html

The Canadians use the DDH designation

http://www.iaw.on.ca/~awoolley/lwnavy.html

Jon

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From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:35:20 -0500

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

Hmm, there seems to be a certain difference of opinion here. I've got 12 slots
for Heavy Frigates and Heavy Destroyers.

In those 12 slots, I'm going to make 6 of each code. So...

Pick two of the following three:

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:16:21 -0500 (EST)

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them.

Au contraire, mon frere, FFG is used quite heavily in the USN. My brother
served on FFG 57 ("Reuben James").

DDG is also used.

For two-letter designations, CG is used for missile cruiser in the USN.

Check out:

  http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/lists/shipalfa.html

for a listing USN of ships (includes designations, ID number, and homeports)

Mk

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:14:48 -0500

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> Pick two of the following three:

FA would properly mean "Frigate, Armored" rather than "Frigate, Heavy" so I'd
say kill "FA"

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:36:24 -0500 (EST)

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, They came, they grabbed, we whomped wrote:

> >> I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them.

The NAC or NSL really wouldn't have much in the way of XXG or XG craft (with
the exception of things like the Walburg Ms, those being DDGs). However the
FSE and ESU are very XXG and XG heavy. In some cases even being BBGs and
BDNGs. If you've got an armament of Salvo Missiles or MT missiles, tack a G on
there to indicate the guided missile compliment.

From: -MWS- <Hauptman@c...>

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:57:08 -0800

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

Hiya Tom!

This is what I've been using for my K'rathri fleet designations. Most of the
classes have a "base" designation, with a second or third modifier depending
on the function.

BASE Classes
------------
YY      non-FTL fighters
GG FTL gunships FF Frigates (small escorts) DD Destroyers (escorts) CC
Cruisers BC Battlecruisers BB Battleships BD Battledreadnoughts DN
Dreadnoughts SD Superdreadnoughts CV Carriers

FUNCTION Codes (2nd/3rd letter)
---------------------------
L Light H Heavy E Escort A Attack Q Patrol S Scout

SECONDARY FUNCTION Codes (3rd letter)
-------------------------------------
G Guided (missile) W Planetary Warfare

If the primary code is a doubled letter, then the first function code replaces
the duplicate letter in the code. Secondary functions are always in 3rd letter
position. K'rathri convention always lists missile ships as attack ships as
well, so a "missile destroyer" would be coded as DAG instead of DDG.

Escort ships tend to be dedicated anti-missile / anti-fighter platforms.
Attack ships tend to be heavy on Pulse Torps. Missile ships use MT missiles,
as the K'rathri do not currently have Salvo Missile technology. Patrol ships
tend to be on the Heavy side of the weight classes, since they are intended
for extended duties away from fleet logistical support.

Here's a list of what I've currently got designs for. The SSD stats are on
StarFighter Command at http://www.sfcmd.com/fullthrust/fleet.htm.

Fighters (six per stand)
------------------------
YY standard fighters, fast fighters YE interceptor fighters YH heavy fighters
YA attack fighters YAH torpedo fighters
YQ      long-range fighters

Gunships (FTL capable, 1 to 4 per stand)
----------------------------------------
GG gunships GA attack gunships GS scout ships

Light escorts
-------------
FL corvettes FF frigates FA attack frigates FAG missile frigates FH heavy
frigates

Destroyers
----------
DD destroyers DE escort destroyers DA attack destroyers DH heavy destroyers,
"super" destroyers

Cruisers
--------
CL light cruisers CC cruisers CE escort cruisers CA attack cruisers CH heavy
cruisers CHG heavy missile cruisers CQ patrol cruisers

Battlecruisers and Battleships
------------------------------
BC battlecruisers BCG missile battlecruisers BB battleships BBG missile
battleships

Dreadnoughts

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:14:06 EST

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

In a message dated 1/12/2000 10:29:44 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> davisje@crd.ge.com writes:

> FFG appears to be quite heavily used.

Grr, just when you think you know the rules...
-Stephen

From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:50:14 -0500

Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)

> -MWS- wrote:

Quite an impressive system there! If you like, we're planning on working on
custom decal work for people as well as the standard sets we offer.

Let me know if you're interested. We're currently hammering out how the
pricing will work, but that should be done shortly.

Tom