From: Neil <rppl@p...>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:50:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> > FFG appears to be quite heavily used. Actually we use DDG, I know because I am serving on one.
From: Neil <rppl@p...>
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:50:50 -0800
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> > FFG appears to be quite heavily used. Actually we use DDG, I know because I am serving on one.
From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:55:05 -0500
Subject: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
OK, I've changed the sheet once again, now (at the expense of the transports) you've got a choice between CA and CH for Heavy Cruisers. However, what about Heavy Frigates (FH and FA?) and Heavy Destroyers (DH and DA?) Do they get the same treatment? I certainly like that designation better than FFH and DDH, which I'm using now. Tom
From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:05:16 -0500
Subject: RE: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them. Jon [quoted original message omitted]
From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:33:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> However, what about Heavy Frigates (FH and FA?) and Heavy Destroyers I'd say yes. FB lists Heavy destroyers as DH, so FH would follow.
From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:38:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> Sean Bayan Schoonmaker wrote: I must have missed that in the first pass, it does indeed! Well then, I feel better now. Tom
From: DracSpy@a...
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 12:11:14 EST
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
In a message dated 1/12/2000 6:29:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, > davisje@crd.ge.com writes: > I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them. The FF and DD designations are only used in the USN to denote when there is no other designator. So you'll never (in the USN) run acrros a FFH or a FFG they would be FH and FG. -Stephen
From: Jon Davis <davisje@n...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:29:02 -0500
Subject: RE: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
FFG appears to be quite heavily used. http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/ship-ffg.html http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/ship-dd.html The Canadians use the DDH designation http://www.iaw.on.ca/~awoolley/lwnavy.html Jon [quoted original message omitted]
From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:35:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
Hmm, there seems to be a certain difference of opinion here. I've got 12 slots for Heavy Frigates and Heavy Destroyers. In those 12 slots, I'm going to make 6 of each code. So... Pick two of the following three:
From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:16:21 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them.
Au contraire, mon frere, FFG is used quite heavily in the USN. My brother
served on FFG 57 ("Reuben James").
DDG is also used.
For two-letter designations, CG is used for missile cruiser in the USN.
Check out:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/lists/shipalfa.html
for a listing USN of ships (includes designations, ID number, and homeports)
Mk
From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:14:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> Pick two of the following three: FA would properly mean "Frigate, Armored" rather than "Frigate, Heavy" so I'd say kill "FA"
From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:36:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, They came, they grabbed, we whomped wrote: > >> I think the FFH and DDH designations are best. Stick with them. The NAC or NSL really wouldn't have much in the way of XXG or XG craft (with the exception of things like the Walburg Ms, those being DDGs). However the FSE and ESU are very XXG and XG heavy. In some cases even being BBGs and BDNGs. If you've got an armament of Salvo Missiles or MT missiles, tack a G on there to indicate the guided missile compliment.
From: -MWS- <Hauptman@c...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:57:08 -0800
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
Hiya Tom! This is what I've been using for my K'rathri fleet designations. Most of the classes have a "base" designation, with a second or third modifier depending on the function. BASE Classes ------------ YY non-FTL fighters GG FTL gunships FF Frigates (small escorts) DD Destroyers (escorts) CC Cruisers BC Battlecruisers BB Battleships BD Battledreadnoughts DN Dreadnoughts SD Superdreadnoughts CV Carriers FUNCTION Codes (2nd/3rd letter) --------------------------- L Light H Heavy E Escort A Attack Q Patrol S Scout SECONDARY FUNCTION Codes (3rd letter) ------------------------------------- G Guided (missile) W Planetary Warfare If the primary code is a doubled letter, then the first function code replaces the duplicate letter in the code. Secondary functions are always in 3rd letter position. K'rathri convention always lists missile ships as attack ships as well, so a "missile destroyer" would be coded as DAG instead of DDG. Escort ships tend to be dedicated anti-missile / anti-fighter platforms. Attack ships tend to be heavy on Pulse Torps. Missile ships use MT missiles, as the K'rathri do not currently have Salvo Missile technology. Patrol ships tend to be on the Heavy side of the weight classes, since they are intended for extended duties away from fleet logistical support. Here's a list of what I've currently got designs for. The SSD stats are on StarFighter Command at http://www.sfcmd.com/fullthrust/fleet.htm. Fighters (six per stand) ------------------------ YY standard fighters, fast fighters YE interceptor fighters YH heavy fighters YA attack fighters YAH torpedo fighters YQ long-range fighters Gunships (FTL capable, 1 to 4 per stand) ---------------------------------------- GG gunships GA attack gunships GS scout ships Light escorts ------------- FL corvettes FF frigates FA attack frigates FAG missile frigates FH heavy frigates Destroyers ---------- DD destroyers DE escort destroyers DA attack destroyers DH heavy destroyers, "super" destroyers Cruisers -------- CL light cruisers CC cruisers CE escort cruisers CA attack cruisers CH heavy cruisers CHG heavy missile cruisers CQ patrol cruisers Battlecruisers and Battleships ------------------------------ BC battlecruisers BCG missile battlecruisers BB battleships BBG missile battleships Dreadnoughts
From: DracSpy@a...
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:14:06 EST
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
In a message dated 1/12/2000 10:29:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, > davisje@crd.ge.com writes: > FFG appears to be quite heavily used. Grr, just when you think you know the rules... -Stephen
From: Thomas Pope <tpope@c...>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:50:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Frigates, Destroyers and Cruisers! Oh My! (was Re: Decals)
> -MWS- wrote: Quite an impressive system there! If you like, we're planning on working on custom decal work for people as well as the standard sets we offer. Let me know if you're interested. We're currently hammering out how the pricing will work, but that should be done shortly. Tom