For Jon @ GZG: Point conversion from FT to DS2

2 posts ยท May 5 1997 to May 6 1997

From: Phillip E. Pournelle <pepourne@n...>

Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:38:31 -0400

Subject: For Jon @ GZG: Point conversion from FT to DS2

Jon,
        I'm examining the use of FT and DS2/SG to build a campeign with.
The critical piece is the point conversions between the games. I was wondering
if you have put any thought to the issue and have an answer. In the meantime,
I have pulled out some examples from both games and tried to find the
conversion. I would apreciate other's feedback on my examples (i.e. nicely
point out my mistakes...) as well. In More Thrust we are told that 1 Mass of
drop ship can carry 10 Cargo spaces and that a soldier being transported takes
up 2 Cargo spaces. In DirtSide II we are told that 1 Vehicle Capacity is equal
to 1 Troops space. Therefore, it costs 2 Full Thrust Point (FTP) per 5 man
squad to be transported to the surface in a size 1 (5 troop capacity)
AEROSPACE transport.

Example 1: a 5 man basic AEROSPACE Transport costs 2 FTP DirtSide II Stats and
costs: Size: 1 5 Troops Capacity Armor: 0 BVP: 5
Fusion Power Generator:                         +3
AEROSPACE Mobility:                             +50

Total Cost: 58 FTP to DSP Conversion: 2 to 58: or 1 Full Thust Point equals 29
DirtSide Points.

Example 2: 10 Mass Drop Ship out of More Thrust Book Costs 20 Full Thrust
Points DirtSide II Stats and Costs: Size: 10 Troop Capacity: 50 Armor: 0 BVP:
50
Fusion Power Generator:                         +30
AEROSPACE Mobility:                             +500

Total Cost: 580 FTP to DSP Conversion: 20 to 580 or 1 Full Thrust Point equals
29 Dirtside Points.

Example 3: Standard Fighter out of Full Thrust given that a MASS 6 Hangar Bay
costs 2 FTP (More Thrust). Therefore a single fighter would cost 3 each.
DirtSide II Stats and Costs: Size: 1 Capacity: 5 Armor: 1 BVP: 6
Fusion Power Generator:                         + 3.6
AEROSPACE Mobility:                             +60
2 High Energy Lasers type 1                     +24
Basic Fire Control                              + 2

Total Cost: 95.6 FTP to DSP Conversion: 95.6 to 3 or 1 Full Thrust Point
equals about 32 DirtSide Points.

Final Analysis, it would seem reasonable to say that 1 Full Thrust Point is
the Equivelant to 30 DirtSide II Points.

I would Apreciate it if others would compare their own data samples.

From: db-ft@w... (David Brewer)

Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 00:17:32 -0400

Subject: Re: For Jon @ GZG: Point conversion from FT to DS2

In message <9705052138.AA14661@nps.navy.mil> "Phillip E. Pournelle" writes:
> In the meantime, I have pulled out some examples from both

I've spotted one mistake for you...

> In More Thrust we are told that 1 Mass of drop ship can carry

MT p15, second-last paragraph, last 2 lines: "if dropping "leg"
infantry... the drop capacity is 1CS per man". So I'm afraid your first
calculation is off. ~

> Total Cost: 58

Now 1 to 58.

> Example 2:

...also doubled on the same basis.

> Example 3:
[...]
> FTP to DSP Conversion: 95.6 to 3 or 1 Full Thrust Point equals about

Ah... treat yourself and buy a nicer fighter costing twice as much. Makes it 1
FT = 60 DS.

You could also try matching PV's between DS arty and FT ortillery. Not sure
what result you'll get.