I'll suggest a few. Since we're trying to keep generic, I'm going to try to
avoid (for most of these) anything tied to a particular milleiu or time.
1: Contact! - based off something commonly shouted on first sight of
the enemy
2: Ground Zero - if it hasn't been used, it's begging to be used for
something
3: The Sharp End
4: Under Fire!
5: Body Count
6: In Harm's Way
7: Generic Universal Tactical System (GUTS)
8: Engage!
9: Rapid Fire!
10: Enemy Force!
11: Section Leader! (Squad Leader has already been taken...)
12: Fireteam Zero! (works in the GZG theme and captures the small unit idea)
Just some ideas that sounded neat to me. Dirtside and Stargrunt both have a
certain flare. So does Full Thrust, though it leads to many lewd comparisons.
Hopefully the name for this game will conjure to mind small
unit combat and the excitement of man-to-man games...
In message
<417DEC289A05D4118408000102362E0A54CA05@host-253.bitheads.com>, "Bar
> clay, Tom" writes:
I like those.
> 9: Rapid Fire!
This is already taken, WW2 rules IIRC.
> 12: Fireteam Zero! (works in the GZG theme and captures the small unit
Not bad either. Alternately, just Fireteam.
> Jon T. wrote:
> "Barclay, Tom" wrote:
[MUNCH]
> Just some ideas that sounded neat to me. Dirtside and Stargrunt both
Hmmmm. It's actually kind of a shame, because Stargrunt is probably a more
appropriate name for man to man skirmish games than the squad
game it is right now. (8-)
That being said, I think FMASk has a nice ring to it. Problem is marketing in
North America (where the term 'Anorak' is not really
in wide distribution (8-)). Actually, that raises a title
suggestion: "Full Metal Warrior" Or some play on the
"Warrior" theme? (Use 'Full Metal Gladiator' and take advantage
of the hype that's sweeping the Oscars this year. (8-) )
JGH
I'm partial to The Sharp End, but somebody needs to talk to David Drake
- he
has a Slammers novel of that name, and pefect for an FMA-Sk adaption
come to think of it.
I seem to recall a game called "Advance to Contact", but maybe it was a book.
> --- "Barclay, Tom" <tomb@bitheads.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 February 2001, Andy Cowell wrote:
> > 9: Rapid Fire!
Yep, World War Two miniature rules.
> > 12: Fireteam Zero! (works in the GZG theme and captures the small
Fireteam was taken. It was a modern era skirmish rule set by Tabletop if I
remember correctly. I have the rules.
> On Fri, 16 February 2001, Andy Cowell wrote:
> > 9: Rapid Fire!
Yep, World War Two miniature rules.
> > 12: Fireteam Zero! (works in the GZG theme and captures the small
Fireteam was taken. It was a modern era skirmish rule set by Tabletop if I
remember correctly. I have the rules.
For a name, my 2 pennerth is-
blood and guts (just thinking of the GW thread<G>)
Some other posibilities?
Crash Action - more submariner maybe?
Rules of Engagement - doesn't fit teh two word theme
Alpha Team - Vietnam connotations?
Full Auto
Immediate Action - too long
Special Action - too generic?
Strike Swiftly - too generic?
Assault Force - too generic?
> -----Original Message-----
> On Fri, 16 February 2001, Andy Cowell wrote:
I think that may be FireFIGHT, but will have to check.
> >On Fri, 16 February 2001, Andy Cowell wrote:
Yep, Cyberpunk (by R. Talsorian), a fun little game, has Friday Night
Firefight. Also, Firestorm is a series of adventures for Cyberpunk (three
parts to it, I think).
The range from GZG has always had something "sci-fi" about, if sometimes
a little obscure:
Full Thrust - the thurst of a starship
Dirtside - reference to a planet from space
Stargrunt - infantry fighting "in the stars"
So FMA should fit into that mold. Some of the names mentioned could be any
period or genre.
Not that I'm much help, I can't think of any:)
JS
---
> Jon T. wrote:
> Fireteam was taken. It was a modern era skirmish rule set by
Firefight is an SF skirmish game by Alternative Armies, not modern era. Or at
least there is one SF skirmish game by AA called "Firefight"; there are
probably other games of that name as well <g>
Later,
[quoted original message omitted]
In message <008201c0986b$15de80c0$2cb1893e@inty>
> "Bif Smith" <bif@bifsmith.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> For a name, my 2 pennerth is-
Oh,
> C.T. , sorry for the spelling mistake, I do try to spell peoples names
No problem - I was just in a pedantic mood :-)
On the subject of names - well how about:
Doom Platoon?
Planet Platoon?
Just my 2p.
How about "upclose n personal"..
Bob DeAngelis
[quoted original message omitted]
"Point of Contact"?
Or is that already taken too. It sounds a little familiar.
***
Firefight is an SF skirmish game by Alternative Armies, not modern era. Or at
least there is one SF skirmish game by AA called "Firefight"; there are
probably other games of that name as well <g>
***
Thanks for saving me the trouble of digging in the basement. I was thinking
AA, but suddenly feared old-man's-memory. ;->=
Course, there was also an SPI mod war game, companion to City Fight. And WEG
had a Fire Team, I think.
Those are box games, but Engage! was mentioned, and I think that was a micro
Armo(u)r, perhaps by WRG. Maybe also a Napoleonics. I've seen a naval
miniatures book set called In Harm's Way.
Getting DARN tricky, now that the hobby has had several 'renaissance's. I
still find myself getting confused 'tween mentions of Starguard and Stargrunt.
I agree with Jeremy that trying hard to infuse a future genre in the name is
good, and further, I'd like to keep it to two word of one syllable for
continuity, but everything I come up with breaks my own rules. Las Knife
Fight, anything that ends in Skirmish, etc.
I'm wishing Stargrunt had been Starsquad first... ;->=
Someone mentioned "Point of contact"...
How about "Contact front!" or something similar...
Doesn't fit the sci-fi theme, but..
JS
---
> > Crash Action - more submariner maybe?
> How 'bout "Pointfire?" Since we're generally talking about real close
I like that, and I haven't read the rules either. ;-)
Death Watch?
Marines and Mini-Nukes?
Guns and Ammo? (There is already a support magazine. too)
On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:31:46 +0000, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
wrote:
> I think that may be FireFIGHT, but will have to check.
By golly, you're right. "Fire Fight", copyright 1985. "Firefight" was an SPI
modern tactical board game, and "Firepower" was an Avalon Hill skirmish game.
There was a PC game called "Fireteam" that came out in the late '90s. West End
Games also had a tactical combat board game called "Fireteam".
Here are a couple of my name ideas.
"Overwatch" - I like this one, but don't know if you'd have problems
with GW. GW likes to think it invented the term (though I first came across
the term in the '70s when discussing infantry tactics).
"Reaction Fire" - The name is based on a term in Stargrunt, so it has
that SG2 connection.
"Target Rich Environment" - Kind of cumbersome, but it's a known phrase,
has a simple acronym (TRE) and fits in with a three word title like "Bugs
Don't Surf".
"Die Shift" - Okay, this is frivolous, but at least it fits the two
syllable theme, and it has the word "die" in it!
By the way... Everyone knows where the term "bugs" comes from when regarding
aliens (Starship Troopers or Aliens, take your pick). I remember talking to
someone who didn't realise that "Bugs Don't Surf" is a take off on a phrase in
a war movie! I know the movie (don't have it on DVD yet), but can anyone else
name the movie, the actual phrase, and the name of the character saying the
phrase? *G*
***
By the way... Everyone knows where the term "bugs" comes from when regarding
aliens (Starship Troopers or Aliens, take your pick). I remember talking to
someone who didn't realise that "Bugs Don't Surf" is a take off on a phrase in
a war movie! I know the movie (don't have it on DVD yet), but can anyone else
name the movie, the actual phrase, and the name of the character saying the
phrase? *G*
***
I had to go to IMDB to get the character and phrase, but I remembered the part
of the movie and the actor, even if I've never seen it completely. I
was thinking of another term, beginning with G, for the non-surfers.
I really must watch it someday. It was too intense for me when it first came
out.
> ***
It was Starship Troopers by Heinlein, which was published a long time before
anyone ever heard of Aliens. The book is excellent, though a tad less on
action than the movie....okay, a lot less:)
George
***
I'm going to guess Full Metal Jacket and "Gooks don't surf" as the original
quote. No idea who the actors were, never saw it.
***
Sorry, led you astray. The 'g' word was what I was thinking, wrongly.
Right era, wrong movie.
I'll take the bait.
Apocalypse Now, "...Charlie don't surf....." said by Col Kilgour (Robert
Duvall). The whole purpose in the movie of the air assault onto the
beach/village was so that Kilgour could have his boys surf on that
particular beach!
Way back when, we used to have a guy who would get drunk on bourbon and sit
in semi darkness in his room in barracks (he was a Corporal - US Army
Sergeant equiv- Section Commander so had his own room - called a Jack
Room) and watch Apocalypse Now with the sound turned off but reciting much of
the script......not really weird....but creepy...
Owen G
> -----Original Message-----
wrote:
> >I think that may be FireFIGHT, but will have to check.
> By the way... Everyone knows where the term "bugs" comes from when
Apocalypse Now.
The scene went something like this: There is this colonal who wants to go into
VC terratory because it has good surfing, one of his command staff is unsure
of the whole thing.
Trooper:"I don't know sir, it's pretty crazy up there. That's Charlie's
point."
Colonel Kilgore (Robert Duvall): "Charlie Don't Surf!"
Robert Duvall's character also had the line "I love the smell of napalm in the
morning."
> I had to go to IMDB to get the character and phrase, but I
I'm going to guess Full Metal Jacket and "Gooks don't surf" as the
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:44:06 -0800, "Laserlight"
<laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
> I'm going to guess Full Metal Jacket and "Gooks don't surf" as the
Nope. Ndedge and Owen got it. It was Apocalypse Now! The character was Col.
Kilgore, played brilliantly by Robert Duvall. The phrase was "Charlie don't
surf."
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:03:58 -0500, "stranger" <stranger@cvn.net> wrote:
> It was Starship Troopers by Heinlein, which was published a long time
Ah, but the aliens in "Starship Troopers" were very bug like. And only one set
of aliens were called bugs. (The others were "skinnies", if I remember.)
It was "Aliens" that used the term "bugs" to be sort of a generic alien
lifeform term. "Is this another bug hunt?"
However, if I had to pick one, I think you're right. If the "bugs" term is a
sci-fi analogue for "gooks", "charlie", "jerry", etc., then the lineage
is Heinlein.
There's a quote on the back of the original Avalon Hill Starship Troopers
game, taken from the novel: 'Bugs, Mr.Rico. Millions of them!'
Not certain that one of the Hartnell Dr.Who's with big bugs didn't precede
that. And, of course, there's always Kafka... ;->=
...and a couple more...
Bayonet Point
Killing Ground
Fire Zone - this been done before?
Combat Drop
Combat Team
Point Man
Cold Steel
Knife Edge
Sharp Edge
Target Front
Man Down
Weapons Free
CQB (Close Quarters Battle)
i think we'll run into information overload here!
Personally I like ColdSteel; fits more in the FullThrust, Dirtside, StarGrunt
themes....
Owen G
> -----Original Message-----
> Owen wrote:
> Cold Steel
I really like that! It would be great for SF/Modern/WW2/WW1 and
Medieval/Fantasy skirmish as well.
> ...and a couple more...
I'm not sure - there's been a Free Fire Zone ('Nam rules), and lots of
others with "Zone" in the title - Kill Zone, Combat Zone, Downtown
Militarized Zone (DMZ- Shadowrun) etc. A bit over-used, but that's
because
it sounds good! :-/
> Combat Drop
"Sharp End" is a strong possible - yes, I know the Drake book (THE sharp
end), but hey, it's a book not a game, and you can't copyright a
title....)
> Target Front
It's just SUCH a shame that "Hot Lead" has been grabbed by SJG years back but
will probably never actually see publication.... as a minis game title
it's pretty near perfect...... :-/
Jon (GZG)
> Owen G
Close Assault (probably used)
Up Close and Personal
Check your targets
Power Armor (probably taken)
Power Troopers
Gauss and Grenades
Alien Soil
PIGs and Power Armor (joke)
Special Forces (probably taken)
[quoted original message omitted]
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:31:53 +1100, "Owen Glover"
<oglover@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Bayonet Point
Sounds too much like a 19th century game.
> Cold Steel
Same thing. It sounds like sabres and bayonets. In fact, I did a Google search
on '"cold steel" wargame'. Every entry used the term "cold steel" to represent
swords. I found reference to "Cold Steel" being used for the name of an 18th
century miniatures rules set.
> Man Down
This could work, though it's a bit sexist for a sci-fi game. Wonder if
we can come up with another term than "man"?
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:11:39 +0000, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
wrote:
> I'm not sure - there's been a Free Fire Zone ('Nam rules), and lots of
Yep. Free on The Miniatures Page.
> "Sharp End" is a strong possible - yes, I know the Drake book (THE
One thing, though. I would avoid the Drake titles if only because it might
make it hard to get trademarked. I know you can't copyright a title, but you
can trademark it. It would probably be okay, but lawyers make a stink of a lot
of money from people who thought they were "probably okay".
> It's just SUCH a shame that "Hot Lead" has been grabbed by SJG years
Yeah, it is...
It reminds me of a button I had once that said, "Eat hot photons, Martian
slime!" Some variation on "Hot Lead" might work. "Hot Plasma, Cold Steel" was
one I thought of when I read Owen's "Cold Steel" suggestion.
There is another idea I thought of. It's been done by other companies. You use
the name of one product as a tie-in for the name of another product
that's somewhat different.
"Stargrunt: Fireteam"
It uses the Stargrunt "brand", but implies that the game is different from
Stargrunt II. Of course, there is always the possibility of brand confusion.
However, movie companies and software developers don't seem to think it's a
big deal. Just throwing out another idea...
> However, if I had to pick one, I think you're right. If the "bugs"
term is a
> sci-fi analogue for "gooks", "charlie", "jerry", etc., then the
The term also appears in the Space Opera RPG by FGU (dating myself a bit
there), but again it was in reference to a specific race.
How about "Soldier"? Has that name been taken? If not, then hey, we got a name
that fits.
I haven't seen Drop Zone yet. Stays with the two syllable convention and has a
scifi and historical connotation (planetary assaults or paratroopers). May be
a game already though.
Hot Zone, a compromise between Combat Zone and Hot Lead.
I think someone already mentioned Firestorm and Flashpoint, or thay may
already be games.
Take Down, for those fans of hand to hand combat. WWF using FMA.
Duck and Cover, for the nuclear battlefield.
> There is another idea I thought of. It's been done by other companies.
You use
> the name of one product as a tie-in for the name of another product
I like this idea. Since FMA ties into Stargrunt anyway, it says "We're of a
similar model, but I'm a different rules set".
Which I guess could lead to Stargrunt III being called "Stargrunt: Platoon" or
something similar:)
JS
---
> How about "Soldier"? Has that name been taken? If not, then hey, we
However I can see a novice or new gamer spying the game on a shelf and
thinking "Hey, they made a game based on that Kurt Russell movie" and then
quickly moving on...
JS
---
> Which I guess could lead to Stargrunt III being called "Stargrunt:
Platoon"
> or something similar :)
I read this back to myself and think: "Do we want Jon to have a life?"
:)
JS
---
In message <OFE5F06E8B.BA615B78-ON862569F7.001CD1E3@uneb.edu>
> devans@uneb.edu wrote:
> There's a quote on the back of the original Avalon Hill Starship
IIRC Starship Troopers was first published sometime in the 1950's, Dr.Who was
first broadcast Nov. 23, 1963 (the day after Kennedy was shot
:-).
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:15:47 -0600, "Christopher K Smith"
<smithck72@home.com> wrote:
> I haven't seen Drop Zone yet. Stays with the two syllable convention
Yep. "Drop Zone: Great Battles of the Second World War, Volume 2" by the
Canadian Wargames Group. World War II miniatures rules.
> I think someone already mentioned Firestorm and Flashpoint, or thay may
Firestorm sounds familiar. It might work, but it's kind of generic.
"Flashpoint: Golan" was used as a game name.
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:25:19 -0500 "stranger" <stranger@cvn.net> writes:
A. Mark Ratner's "Space Marines" (my replacement copy) Copyright 1980.
Pages 70-71. Hi, fellow old timer! 8^)
Jeremy Sadler said
> I read this back to myself and think: "Do we want Jon to have a
How about my favorite...
Blazin' Beamers! (No I am no refering to flaming BMWs...8-D)
Beamer -- (Slang. Generic term for any sort of energy using, or
projecting weapon.)
(Its not actually in any dictionary...But if I wrote one it would!)
Donald Hosford
> Ground Zero Games wrote:
> >...and a couple more...
In regards to Dropzone, there is already a game called Dropwing, so this would
probably be to confusing.
> 5: Body Count
Miniatures rules for Vietnam by Ian Drury published in the UK a few years ago.
> 7: Generic Universal Tactical System (GUTS)#
Some of the games by Steve Blease (e.g. Panzerfauste) use a modified version
of EDNA (Ever Decreasing Number Allocation) invented by Richard Brooks, that
is called GUTS, so this would be confusing.
Haven't got any other suggestions (yet)
Mike
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How about:
Go In Black Op Under Cover (I dont think so) Surgical Strike
/magnus
[quoted original message omitted]
> From the list:
Bayonet Point
-- Too much 19th century.
Killing Ground
-- Or if you are a Sun-Tzu fan, "Death Ground"
Combat Drop
-- Drop Troops was a BT supplement. And the game is supposed to cover
man-2-man skirmish not planetary assaults (like Prefect from RL).
Combat Team
-- Visions of Harold Coyle or Tom Clancy...
Sharp Edge
-- Prefer "Sharp End" myself
Man Down
-- Like it! (It describes what happens most of the time...)
Weapons Free
-- This (for me) conjures a more naval image... or air force...
CQB (Close Quarters Battle)
-- Or Close Action? Or Close Contact? Close Contact would be good to
cover the description of a skirmish game with a 1":2m groundscale....
Close Assault (probably used)
-- Possibly not... and it does describe a game mechanic
Full Auto
-- This isn't bad either
Immediate Action - too long
-- I like it, but it has too many syllables.
Reaction Fire
-- another good one... mechanic in the game....
I add a few more:
Hostile Contact!
Rapid Fire!
Target Destroyed
Sustained Fire
Go To Ground
Unfriendly Fire (of course, there is no such thing as Friendly Fire)
Killing Ground (another Sun Tzu hommage)
Orbital Assault
Shots Fired!
Taking Fire!
Under Fire!
Plasma Strike!
As for the idea of calling it Stargrunt:...., I don't think that's so wise. It
isn't Stargrunt. It's an FMA game. If you wanted to use that style of
branding, use FMA:SG3 and FMA:<whatever our skirmish is> as the identifiers...
FMA is the system. Not Stargrunt.
> Killing Ground
Nothing to do with Skirmish, though
> Combat Team
Yep. I think of "combat team" as about a regiment, not a squad.
> Man Down
How about "Take Cover"
> Weapons Free
agree
> CQB (Close Quarters Battle)
"Close Action" is good, or "Close Assault"
> Hostile Contact!
doesn't flow
> Target Destroyed
> Killing Ground (another Sun Tzu hommage)
ok
> Orbital Assault
I think "Stargrunt:Man to Man" and "Stargrunt:Platoon" might work, despite
TomB's disinclination.
[quoted original message omitted]
> On Mon, 19 February 2001, "Barclay, Tom" wrote:
> Combat Drop
As I mentioned, it's also a Canadian Wargamers' rule and scenario book for
WW2.
> Combat Team
Yeah. How about "Team Tuffley"? *L* (Just a little joke... At GenCon, Jeff
Guillion used to run generic SG2 games under the title "Strike Force Tuffley".
> Sharp Edge
"Sharp End" is a little too Drake for me. As I mentioned earlier, it could run
Jon into trademarking issues.
> Man Down
And what gets yelled when my female Japanese mercs get shot? "Sentient Down"?
"Sapient Down"? How about "Trooper Down"? Again, not very
sci-fi... "Bug Down"? *L*
> Weapons Free
Air force for me...
> Hostile Contact!
Sounds aircraft/spacecraft to me. There's a similar sounding World War I
aircraft miniatures game.
> Rapid Fire!
Been done. World War II miniatures game. Grand tactical level, I think. Fairly
well known.
> Go To Ground
Hmm. Not bad. I thought of "In Position" but thought it was too generic.
> Shots Fired!
Sounds like a police game! "1 Adam-12. Shots fired. See the man at the
corner of Wilshire and Hollywood." (I think I just showed, a) my ignorance of
LA geography, and b) my age!)
> As for the idea of calling it Stargrunt:.... , I don't think that's so
Except that most people outside of this list haven't clued into the FMA thing.
You look on Usenet and people know "Stargrunt". Same with game conventions.
They don't know FMA.
I'm not necessarily advocating it, though. Just threw it out as another course
of action.
> On 19 Feb 2001 agoodall@canada.com wrote:
> On Mon, 19 February 2001, "Barclay, Tom" wrote:
[...]
> > Man Down
In that case 'man' becomes gender-neutral.
Though I can see the PC-ridden in the military insisting it be
changed to 'trooper down' or 'soldier down'. What I want to know,
then is, are these same PC folk going to change all the gender-
typed words in other languages, then?
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:28:31 +1300, "Andrew Martin" <andrew@wxc.net.nz>
wrote:
> Fix Bayonets!
For a sci-fi combat game? *S*
A few suggestions (with snide remarks included!. If some one could forward a
copy of FMAS to this address, I've had an idea.
Laser Guided?
Blaster Bait?
Star Legion (computer game :-(
Astra Alpha (has a nice ring)
Legionnes Astra? (spellings probably off)
Railgun (only one word, maybe a more detailed gravtank game... possibly based
off of FMAS... hmmm wait... synapses firing)
> --- Charles Taylor <charles.taylor@cableol.co.uk> wrote:
Oh,
> > C.T. , sorry for the spelling mistake, I do try to spell peoples
I've got my own suggestions...
but Target Rich Environment is real catchy... imagine this exchange at a table
in a store: "What are you guys playing?", "Target Rich Environment", "Got room
for one more?"
> --- Allan Goodall <awg@sympatico.ca> wrote:
wrote:
> >I think that may be FireFIGHT, but will have to check.
West
> End
> --- Owen Glover <oglover@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Not weird? Not wierd? What kind of unit was this exactly?
Another from me:
Firebase Astra
also
Fireteam Astra
> --- Christopher K Smith <smithck72@home.com> wrote:
> >Fix Bayonets!
Fix Laser Bayonets!
:-)
> How about "Go In"?
Power Guns!
Cheers
Full Metal!
It has been staring us in the face all this time...
on 2/19/01 8:49, Magnus Alexandersson at
> Shots Fired!
corner of Wilshire and Hollywood." (I think I just showed, a) my
> ignorance
Yeah, sorry, Tom. Wilshire and Hollywood are both (for the most part)
East-West running streets... Sounded good to me, though.
> Rick Rutherford wrote:
It's probably been mentioned already but why not - BUG HUNT - as in
'Ground
Zero Games - it's not just another bug hunt'. I remember seeing this
slogan in the background of one of those photo's of Jon and his stall at some
show.
It's scifi and thanks to the aliens movie it's permeated popular culture
enough that potential buyers/gamers will make the conection to a scifi
skirmish game without any problem.
***
It's probably been mentioned already but why not - BUG HUNT - as in
'Ground
Zero Games - it's not just another bug hunt'. I remember seeing this
slogan in the background of one of those photo's of Jon and his stall at some
show.
***
Not that it CAN'T be used, but I will point out that the Sci-Fi
extension
for SPI/TSR Sniper game used that title.
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:08:26 +1100, Derek Fulton
<derekfulton@bigpond.com> wrote:
> It's probably been mentioned already but why not - BUG HUNT - as in
SPI's "Sniper: Bug Hunt". It was the sci-fi version of SPI's "Sniper"
skirmish board game. The cover showed that it was obviously inspired by one or
two ductwork scampering, ichor dripping critter movies.
> At 02:08 PM 2/21/01 +1100, you wrote:
> The_Beast wrote:
Does SPI/TSR still exsit? I ask because I used to own and play some SPI
games - 'The Next War' and 'Air War' (which I gave away to a
unsuspecting youth in a moment of sadistic pleasure).
Hehe.. If we want that cloak and dagger/X-files/Whatever feel:
Complete Deniability
***
Does SPI/TSR still exsit? I ask because I used to own and play some SPI
games - 'The Next War' and 'Air War' (which I gave away to a
unsuspecting youth in a moment of sadistic pleasure).
***
I've lost track, but I think WotC bought TSR which still owned some of the SPI
titles, others owned by Avalon Hill, which, I think, have both been bought by
Hasbro.
It was about the middle of the fall when I started being overwhelmed by the
shakeouts, buyouts, mergers, and just plain fall-down-and-go-booms in
the business.
I.C.E. is proud to announce on their web site that they've been given
permission under their Chapter 7 to continue to sell current stocks of
product. *sheesh*
The_Beast
PS Is the sadistic pleasure the thought of snaring a hopeless, new addict,
Challenged accepted. With two copies down there somewhere, I have a pretty
good chance of finding one in the basement sometime this year. ;->=
Seriously, sounds right.
The_Beast
Ground Zero Games
<jon@gzg.com> To:
gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu
Sent by: cc:
owner-gzg-l@lists.CSUA.Be Subject: RE:
FMAS names rkeley.EDU
02/21/2001 08:34 AM
Please respond to gzg-l
> ***
That was actually Sniper: Bug HuntER, IIRC.
Jon (GZG)
> The_Beast
[quoted original message omitted]
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:34:18 +0000, Ground Zero Games <jon@gzg.com>
wrote:
> That was actually Sniper: Bug HuntER, IIRC.
I just checked. It's "Sniper: Bughunter" (one word).
"Bug Hunt" is still up for grabs... assuming you put aliens in it. ;-)
How about Full Metal Action?
[quoted original message omitted]
> thurvin wrote:
Better: Full Metal Action! It really needs the exclamation mark.
> At 01:29 AM 2/20/01, you wrote:
Or: "Ad Astra Per Bellum" but that's probably not quite catchy enough
"Causus Belli" (latin-readers, please forgive my unschooled efforts)
"Blow to the Head"
"Explosive Trauma"
"Plasma Rifles and Sharp Sticks"
"Free Fire Zone"
"Bug Stomper"
"Bulletproof Anoracks"
"PBI"
"Body Count"
"Enemy Contact"
"Man Down!"
"How To Defend Yourself Against Attacks By Fresh Fruit..."
"... they found only an old man, who claimed repeatedly that everything was
false, though he was later found to be lying."
***
"Bug Stomper"
***
And the alien expansion: Bug Stompted? ;->=
> "PBI"
Excellent... My vote goes here
Sadly PBI is the name of a set of rules done by Ainstey; I've got a copy
here......
Owen
> -----Original Message-----
FUNG PIGS
comes to mind as a possible 2-syllable name; read the SG glossary for
the
references if you don't get it. ;-)
Neath Southern Skies -http://home.pacific.net.au/~southernskies/
[MKW2] Admiral Peter Rollins - Task Force Zulu-Beta
[Firestorm] Battletech PBeM GM
> -----Original Message-----
> "Free Fire Zone"
Vietnam miniatures game published in the UK.
> "PBI"
World War II miniatures game published in the UK by Peter Pig.
> "Body Count"
Vietnam miniatures game published in the UK.
Sorry!
Mike
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