Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

13 posts ยท Apr 17 2005 to Apr 18 2005

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:40:36 +0200

Subject: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Jon T. wrote:

> One thing you will notice as soon as you get to see the pics is the

So when are you going to start selling *small* metal hex stands for use with
lighter classes? IIRC you should have a production mould for them
stashed away somewhere ;-)

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:34:58 +0100

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Jon T. wrote:

Rather depends if there is a demand for them.... do folks want to see them in
production? We're talking about a small metal hex base about
(from memory - I don't have one here to measure - OO?) 18mm or so
across, to take either a metal or plastic post. With the plastic posts, they'd
probably retail about 1.00 GBP for a pack of 3 or 4.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:34:55 +0200

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Jon T. wrote:

> So when are you going to start selling *small* metal hex stands for

> stashed away somewhere ;-)

How will there ever be a demand for them if you never tell anyone that they
exist? <g>

When I custom-ordered mine, you said that you'd have to make a
production mould for them since I needed so many. If you did that, it
shouldn't be
that much extra work to cast a few to put on display at Salute and/or
ask Paul to put them into the web store... that way you'll soon learn if
there's a demand for them <g> ('Course, if you *didn't* make a production
mould for them it'd be a lot more work for you now too!)

> We're talking about a small metal hex base about (from memory - I don't

> have one here to measure - OO?) 18mm or so across, to take either a

14mm between opposite sides, 16mm between opposite corners. I use them for
ships up to FF size or thereabouts which don't extend very far outside the
base, and I typically mount these ships on half-height posts (either the

short GW ones or standard plastic ones cut down to size) so the small ships
can fit under larger ones when they are in base-to-base contact (or even

with bases overlapping, since the small hex bases are flat and relatively
thin).

Later,

From: Jim Bell <jn.bell@s...>

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:14:37 -0400

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

Well if you were going to make bases I'd rather see them circular. Hex bases
have edges, which over the years seem to allow miniatures to fall over in one
of six directions. The miniatures I have mounted on circular

based are far less prone to fall over.

Well there has been no study of the behaviour only observations over the

years.

Jim

> Oerjan Ohlson wrote:

> Jon T. wrote:

> them in production?

> they exist? <g>

> for ships up to FF size or thereabouts which don't extend very far

From: Warbeads@a...

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:27:56 EDT

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

In a message dated 4/17/05 8:34:04 AM Central Daylight Time, jon@gzg.com

writes:

> Jon T. wrote:
<snip>

Rather depends if there is a demand for them.... do folks want to see them in
production? We're talking about a small metal hex base about
(from memory - I don't have one here to measure  - OO?) 18mm or so
across, to take either a metal or plastic post. With the plastic posts, they'd
probably retail about 1.00 GBP for a pack of 3 or 4.

Jon (GZG)

Count me as a potential buyer, plastic stands have certain limits in my

experience. Definite limits...

Gracias,

From: Warbeads@a...

Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:44:22 EDT

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

In a message dated 4/17/05 3:38:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
> oerjan.ohlson@telia.com writes:

<snip> 14mm between opposite sides, 16mm between opposite corners. I use them
for ships up to FF size or thereabouts which don't extend very far outside the
base, and I typically mount these ships on  half-height posts (either
the short GW ones or standard plastic ones cut down to size) so the small
ships
can fit under larger ones when they are  in base-to-base contact (or
even with bases overlapping, since the small hex bases are flat and relatively
thin).

<snip>

Jon has had these how long??????

They are perfect for my needs!

I know, less miniatures, but still these sound good.

Gracias,

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:51:52 +0200

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Jim Bell wrote:

> Well if you were going to make bases I'd rather see them circular. Hex

> over in one of six directions. The miniatures I have mounted on

In my experience circular bases are just as prone to fall over; they just do
it in more random directions than the hex ones <shrug> In addition the
circular bases don't make it nearly as easy to determine course changes,

nor (if you use the smooth GW-style bases rather than the "studded"
GeoHex ones) to determine fire arcs.

Besides, if Jon is to make circular bases he'll have to sculpt new ones
-
the hexagonal ones already exist...

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 06:52:14 +0200

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Glenn wrote:

> 14mm between opposite sides, 16mm between opposite corners. I use them

As long as the main bunch of new KV ships have been available, so IIRC
about a year and a half. He's just never told anyone about them :-/

Later,

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:13:05 -0400

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

> them stashed away somewhere ;-)

Ummmm....yes, want to see in production. So many of my plastic ones have
busted over the years. :-(   (plastic's fine with plastic and small
metal
ships, but the larger vessels...maybe I play too rough ;-)

Mk

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 13:19:55 +0100

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Glenn wrote:

OK, OK....

FT004 Small hex bases (metal) with plastic posts, pack of 4 1.00 GBP per pack.

Happy now?  ;-)

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:57:34 +0200

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Jon wrote:

> Jon has had these how long??????

> about a year and a half. He's just never told anyone about them :-/

Yep :-)

From: Warbeads@a...

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:42:25 EDT

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

In a message dated 4/18/05 7:17:20 AM Central Daylight Time, jon@gzg.com

writes:

<snip whine. Hey it worked!>

OK, OK....

FT004 Small hex bases (metal) with plastic posts, pack of 4 1.00 GBP per pack.

Happy now?   ;-)

Jon (GZG)

<snip>

Yes!! Depending on whether or not I win two painted GZG APCs in 25 mm on Ebay,
this week or next you should get my initial order (going to be several smaller
orders rather then one gigantic one I am afraid, especially if wife's surgery
doesn't go well as anticipated).

10 GBP should get me 40 small bases or 35 small bases and a pack of the

large bases. That should do for a start. I just realized how many ships I
have... Gulp! Anyone interested in some excess assorted (Star Blazer and
(IIRC) Silent Death) spaceships?

Gracias,

From: Sylvester M. W. <xveers@g...>

Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:56:56 -0700

Subject: Re: Flight stands, was Re: [OFFICIAL] New ESU ships:

> Warbeads@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/18/05 7:17:20 AM Central Daylight Time,

> especially if wife's surgery doesn't go well as anticipated).*

As a matter of fact Glen..... <VEG> I'm very interested indeed. Perhaps if you
could slap together a few pics or a rough list or something, we can talk:D