Final Fantasy

12 posts ยท Apr 12 2001 to Apr 15 2001

From: Los <los@c...>

Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:24:12 -0400

Subject: Final Fantasy

Has anyone seen the trailer to this upcoming summer movie? I was part of the
way through the trailer before I realized this wasn't live action
but CGI. Excellent quality. Lots of good Roughneck-type powerarmor (I
don't think this film has anything to do with Final fantasy the game, though I
could be wrong).

From: Andy Cowell <andy@c...>

Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:57:21 -0500

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> In message <001401c0c308$6d427340$6501a8c0@los450>, "clourenco" writes:

Cool. This, Pearl Harbor, Planet of the Apes...it should be a good

From: Robert Makowsky <rmakowsky@y...>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:00:46 -0300

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

Los,

Have not seen this trailer yet. Only watch TV for the Sopranos

Bob

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From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 06:40:36 -0500

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

***
Have not seen this trailer yet. Only watch TV for the Sopranos

Bob
***

Bob,

It's available on the web site, though you best have a fast connection and
high graphics on PC.

http://www.finalfantasy.com
has a clips button that leads you to:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/final_fantasy/
for the trailers in three different sizes.

I'm hopeful there are a fair number of PA scenes, and this isn't a case of
everything got blown on the promo, though there ARE a lot of PA cuts. Also,
as an unapologetic vac-head, I've hope for the space scenes, too.

Always possible grist for Jon's 'mill'. ;->=

As for following the FF game, it's up to XII or XIII in Japan, right? I've
only seen a couple, so I'm not certain how far afield the story goes.

From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@a...>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:16:25 -0700

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> Has anyone seen the trailer to this upcoming summer movie?

You can see it at http://www.adcritic.com/ under the Movies section

From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>

Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:44:47 +1000

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> As for following the FF game, it's up to XII or XIII in Japan, right?
I've
> only seen a couple, so I'm not certain how far afield the story goes.

The trailer looks good, as for the FF game. Each FF game's storyline is stand
alone and does appear to be unrelated to any other titles in the series, but
the cut scenes are great. I borrowed a copy of FF8 from a fellow member of the
local anime club and Janneke thought it was great had to sit on my lap and
play the game with me.

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:39:20 EDT

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

Yeah, that would be a pity. But then it's Hollywood, not even edutainement.
But then the Japanese seem to have a textbook problem (pun intended) in
remembering their history lately...

The Chinese on the other hand seem to have remembered 'realpolitik' quite
nicely. (Thinking Evil thoughts not to be posted on a public list.)

Gracias, Glenn/Triphibious (American Mongrel)
You don't have to be French  - or  even human -  to be a 'frog'!
Nektons - Real Marines! (Die, Ralnai, Die!)
aka - Warbeads@juno.com (historical miniatures) and
aka - Dwarf_warrior@juno.com (Fantasy & 6mm/10mm figures.)

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:14:23 +1000 Derek Fulton
<derekfulton@bigpond.com> writes:
> At 10:57 12/04/01 -0500, you wrote:

From: Derek Fulton <derekfulton@b...>

Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:53:57 +1000

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> At 07:39 13/04/01 -0400, you wrote:

This is not just a problem restricted to the Japanese.........

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 21:38:10 EDT

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

No, but they sure seem to be reminded about it by the Koreans and Chinese
pretty severely. And properly so but that is just IMNSHO.

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:53:57 +1000 Derek Fulton
<derekfulton@bigpond.com> writes:
> At 07:39 13/04/01 -0400, you wrote:

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:20:36 EDT

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 16:10:31 -0400 Nyrath the nearly wise
> <nyrath@clark.net> writes:

And if Bollywood had made it the hero would have been Hindi? <grin>

I wonder if it would have been as successful had they left it at the
historical British role? After all, it is an entertainment business...

From: Nyrath the nearly wise <nyrath@c...>

Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 09:03:24 -0400

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> Glenn M Wilson wrote:

From: Brian Quirt <baqrt@m...>

Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:24:48 -0300

Subject: Re: Final Fantasy

> Nyrath the nearly wise wrote:
Hollywood
> altered "British" to "American" in order to increase the movie's

Although of course, Enigma was not solved so much through capturing copies as
through using computational abilities. The real credit for cracking Enigma
should go to the British cryptographers (and early computer scientists) in
Bletchley Park, who put together the machines (and tricks) that allowed Enigma
to be decrypted. This was mostly necessary because Enigma was designed
originally so that even if an enemy had a copy, they STILL wouldn't be able to
crack the code without knowing the order of the rotors, the initial starting
position of the rotors, and the placement of the steckers (all of which were
changed as often as three times a day). It was a combination of
brute-force computing (testing out EVERY possible combination and
looking for contradictions (ie no letter can EVER map to itself)), and looking
for encryptions of specific common words (einz, ranks, titles, dates, etc.)
and deriving the sequence from them. And, of course, equal credit goes to
Poland's cryptrographers, who first started cracking Enigma messages in 1933,
and who gave Britain their first bombe (as the cracking machines were called)
as well as some vital hints. It is also worth noting that the Polish
cryptographers fled to France after Poland was occupied, and stayed in France
(Vichy France) after the surrender, still intercepting and decrypting German
transmissions, and smuggling out their work. The US also helped once Britain
had been convinced to give them some of
the information on cracking Enigma, mostly by mass-producing bombes.
Finding the actual code wheels and Enigma machines helped, but mostly by
cutting down the number of possibilities to be tested (allowing Enigma
messages to be cracked in hours (sometimes) instead of days/weeks).