Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

19 posts ยท Jun 19 2003 to Jun 24 2003

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:00:44 PDT

Subject: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

Not to get OT but you wonder if in the Tuffley-verse, while the Kra'vak
and other BEMs are causing chaos in the 'colonies,' what is happening on "Old
Earthe"...

This sad but very Human current event has seeds of scenarios for on and off
planet, Home World, Inner Colonies, outer colonies.

Does anyone have a developed Polynesians/Micronesians/Melanesians in
Space group worked out?

Gracias, Glenn
.
6 mm miniatures rule! Well, anyway in my mind they do!
.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2999250.stm

Fiji set for constitutional showdown

By Phil Mercer BBC correspondent in Sydney

Fiji's Supreme Court is due to sit later on Wednesday to decide on the
legality of the nationalist government of Laisenia Qarase.

Mr Qarase's government took office almost two years ago in an election that
restored democracy following an armed coup in May 2000.

The court will rule if Mr Qarase should, as Fiji's constitution insists he
must, include members
                 of the Indian-dominated
opposition Labour Party in his cabinet.

The prime minister has resisted calls to give his rivals position in
government, claiming it would be unworkable.

Snap elections?

But the constitution says he must, as a way of promoting
                 multi-racial government and harmony.

The document states that the larger opposition parties must have
representation in cabinet in proportion to how well they do at the polls.

Therefore, the Labour Party, led by Mahendra Chaudhry, is entitled to almost
40% of seats at the top table of government.

Mr Qarase has insisted he would not be able to work with the opposition
because its policies are so different that any partnership would end up in
deadlock.

Mr Qarase would probably call a snap election if the Supreme Court decision
goes against him.

                 Coup wounds

                 He has made it clear his long-term aim is to dismantle
the
                 multi-racial constitution in favour of measures giving
indigenous Fijians complete political control.

It is more than three years since Mahendra Chaudhry was deposed by nationalist
gunmen led by George Speight, who was later jailed for life for treason.

Mr Chaudhry was Fiji's first ethnic Indian prime minister.

The coup caused chaos and deeply divided the country along
                 racial lines, inflicting long-lasting
wounds that have still not healed.

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From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:29:15 -0500

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

That would be the Oceanic Union, right? Alan, Beth?

The_Beast

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:16:23 +1000

Subject: RE: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

G'day,

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:37:38 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: RE: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

Given their ethnic heritage, the Hawaiian Islands might make an interesting
bone of contention between the OU and the NAC....

> --- Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:

From: Beth Fulton <beth.fulton@m...>

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:55:34 +1000

Subject: RE: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

G'day,

> Given their ethnic heritage, the Hawaiian Islands

Also throw Indy's independent Hawaii thoughts and other's notions about
Japanese interests into the mix and it gets very hot indeed;)

Cheers

From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>

Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:05:49 +1000

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

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From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:27:29 -0400

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

> Alan and Carmel Brain wrote:

Hawaii is going "free state", following the Cal-Tex break.

Mk

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 07:28:10 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 09:26:34 -0400 "Laserlight" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
writes: <snip>
> See Indy's Hawaiian scenario at this February's ECC
If only I could.

Gracias,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:24:50 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:16:23 +0200 (CEST) KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
writes:
> Glenn Wilson wrote:

No,no, not saying   _that_   Karl.  If that came through it was never
intended.

I just have two co-workers (one is a close friend) who have politely but
pointedly told me, "I'd come to your Hispanic Heriatge Month event but no one
ever has a German (Swiss) American event."

South Saint Louis is definitely a German-American part of the locale
(except for The HIll, Italian heritage) where as North Saint Louis... isn't.
Long time history of less than good relationship.

One of my other coworkers told me she was harrassed in her little
hometown of Valmeyer because she was mixed German-Russian-Polish
heritage. Now that I do NOT understand. Richard Pryor was right.

LOL!

Gracias,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:24:50 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:45:43 +1000 "Alan and Carmel Brain"
> <aebrain@webone.com.au> writes:
<snip>
> BTW (and regarding things Cherokee) personally I have a very low
You'll get no argument from me on that issue! <unusally, no grin>

Gracias,

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:05:01 +0200

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

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From: Roger Books <books@m...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:15:33 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

I still remember the brown eyed high school teacher who informed me I would be
part of the "in" crowd in college because I have blue eyes. I can't even
imagine cliques based on eye color.

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:50:25 -0400

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

> "kh.ranitzsch" wrote:

> > One of my other coworkers told me she was harrassed in her little

Remember the Star Trek (Original Series) episode, "Let That Be Your Last
Battlefield". I didn't see the difference between two characters there when I
first watched it until one of the characters pointed it out.

Mk

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:03:51 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:05:01 +0200 KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
> (kh.ranitzsch) writes:
<snip>
> People can pick on the stangest divisions. If there are no ethnic or

There was an EEO complaint about a person from the west Coast who filed (and
it was sustained) about prejudice because he did not act "black enough" and
was discriminated because of that by some blacks in the
agency.  Now, that's a lot stranger then the FSE/NSL or NAC/LLAR
relationships.  There  also is a split between signing and non-signing
deaf employees that relflects that sub-culture's divisions.  Humans, we
baffle each other - no wonder no aliens will ever understand us! LOL!

> Greetings

Gracias,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:03:51 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:05:01 +0200 KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
> (kh.ranitzsch) writes:

Maybe, but this is Saint Louis and they don't. Maybe over in Hermann,
MO,...

But mostly it is a personal excuse to not attend or acknowledge any EEO
sponsored events. At least they made excuses to me. They never did that to
some of the other groups' events. I suspect it had much to do with the
personalities involved.

Gracias,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:09:43 -0400

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

In my home town <insert Lehrer music>, pretty much everyone was the same
background; so we had a feud between the Martins and the Coys. People who want
to fight will always be able to find a reason; we just need to get them to buy
miniatures first....

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:13:45 -0700

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

Humans, we baffle each other - no wonder no aliens will ever understand
us! LOL!

No Alien would take this mess on.........And why would they want their
superior way of life and world view compromised and contaminated.......Unless
masochism is the highest form of civilization out there......Then we'll fit
right
in....)

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:33:12 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 15:13:45 -0700 "Don Maddox" <dmaddox1@hot.rr.com>
writes:
> Humans, we baffle each other - no wonder no aliens will ever
<snip> Unless
> masochism

Oooh, maybe there is hope for peace in the universe... <chuckle>

Gracias,

From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 06:33:12 PDT

Subject: Re: Fiji in space but back on earth, oy ve?!?!?

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:09:28 -0600 "B Lin" <lin@rxkinetix.com> writes:
<snip>
> The differences could be like - "Well your ships are that off-pink

Makes as much sense as some of the other 'reasoning' for disliking groups I
have heard. A new twist on color stereotyping.

LOL!

Then there are the Power to Puce People group who dislike the Violent Violets
heretics...

Gracias,