Figure bases, Deimos, ROE

2 posts ยท Apr 3 2002 to Apr 3 2002

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:42:32 -0500

Subject: Figure bases, Deimos, ROE

Figure Bases:

Karl, I've started on square bases, but I will try my next one with round rod
and an offset cut. My worry is this: Cutting perpendicular on
the square brass rod with some sanding/filing isn't hard. Cutting a
regular 45 in the round brass with a freehand dremel might be. I think I'd
need a jig and saw otherwise the bases wouldn't be interchangeable.... (angles
would differ on the angle cut)

Also, Roger mentioned pewter bases for GZG ships. I'm sure I asked Jon T about
these and was told only KR makes them (which seemed odd to me at the time). UK
GZG ship buyers, does Jon have a metallic base? Or are they all plastic?

Deimos:
Thanks Brian. Obviously the PDS/LAD goes off to the side... even though
that appears to cover up some nice detail and the rear of the turret looks
like a better spot. I'm going to make this big GEV a NAC MBT...
now I need an unused C-name. Suggestions? My two best so far are
Claymore and Cavalier.

ROE:

I had a friend (now off to Space Command or some such thing) who just finished
a stint at CF Peace Support Training Center. They train
peacekeepers from around the world. These skills are _very_ different
than warfighting and the ROEs are very different. Escalation is not allowed on
most UN missions. Where you can return fire, you generally
are compelled to use the same level of force (small arms -> small arms,
etc). (Me, I believe in the 10:1 rule, but I'm not a peacekeeper).

Some of you listers may know Los (Carlos Lourenco). Carlos related to me how
he was up training some cops in rural tactics, and one of the big differences
is that you often don't get a clear view of your target (due to distance and
foliage). He said at the beginning of the day, ambushed cops wouldn't even
fire because the training to not shoot unless you could verify your target and
knew what was behind it was getting them killed. It took a long time for them
to be able to learn military style
anti-ambush drill and to fire suppressively. (This kind of tactic might
be necessary when hunting down heavily armed militia nutbars who disappear
into the woods, forex).

So ROE and the training of troops for the task they are performing can make a
big change in a scenario. Poorly trained (for OOTW ops) soldiers
(and bloody-minded gamers) tend to shoot anything that even looks
suspicious in a peacekeeping/OOTW scenario. Peacekeepers and Cops tend
to not do so well when put into a shooting war. Those who (in either

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:05:19 +0100

Subject: Re: Figure bases, Deimos, ROE

> Also, Roger mentioned pewter bases for GZG ships. I'm sure I asked Jon

KR had the all-metal base designed himself for the US market; it's very
good for the bigger ships, but was not cost-effective for the smaller
ones
- in a pack of scouts or corvettes, the bases used about ten times as
much
metal as the ships!  For the UK, we use all-plastic stands for
everything up to cruisers, but with all bigger classes we now supply a metal
post to replace the plastic one, still using the plastic hexagonal base piece.
They can also be ordered separately if you want to use them for all your
ships -
30p for complete stand (metal post + plastic hex base).