G'day,
> I dunno. John makes some really good points. Militarily the french
If we constrain our thinking somewhat (I do seem to recall mention of the
English being kicked quite soundly by the French a few times over the last
thousand years... wasn't William the Conqueror from the "wrong side of the
channel"?) always a danger when dealing with history let alone fiction
;)
Thinking back to the IF (which was where this all started before I opened my
big mouth and mentioned Napoleon...) in typical GZG style there is very little
explicit detail and you could argue that around 2130 at least the IF at large
may not have been exceedingly extreme given extremists wish to break away from
it. There is the coup of 2163, but even that's 20 years before the xenowars
where the FBs are set, plenty could happen in that time. The Sulmani IV
incident speaks of less than pleasant tactics, but doesn't shout extremism.
Similarly there is so little on the PAU you can't really say what's what
there. Given the resources and potential population of these areas I think
there's plenty of room for some very neat stuff with these guys. Considering
that the UK went from Catholic to civil war to Protestant in a human lifetime
(or there abouts), which marks one of the greatest changes in its history, I
don't think its impossible that the IF and PAU could be rich and thriving
cultures by 2180s (population modellers see the relevant countries of the real
world being potentially quite powerful by then).
By the same token I think the FSE is a lot more than just the French and it
would be good to explore this mix more. I know there are some out there that
have gone for Italian, Spanish etc themes to their FSE fleets, has anyone
done that for DS/SG too or do you think they would be more integrated
than that?
Another area I think could make a good campaign setting is the
sub-continent. Why has it remained part of the ESU (if it has)?
Cheers
> Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
[...]
> By the same token I think the FSE is a lot more than just the French
I have always been bothered by how 90+% of the [more vocal] people look
at the FSE as a French-only group, so I decided to combat this
perception (in FT at least) by giving my FSE ships parent country designations
(my basic paint scheme is a light grey with the parent country's flag colors
painted diagnolly across the ship). I've wanted to do something in the
DS/SG levels, too, but figured they would be integrated enough that
they would use essentially the same sets of armour, weapons, etc, and camo
patterns would be situation dependent.
> On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 07:42:16AM -0400, Indy wrote:
> I have always been bothered by how 90+% of the [more vocal] people look
Well, it does sometimes seem to be the pick of the "European nations which
Anglophones tend to regard as a bit of a military joke" list. Start with the
French; fair enough. Then the Italians, the Spaniards, (OK, they had Harriers
for a while), the Portugese, the Greeks... none of them is really a country to
make someone brought up with the British or American military traditions pay
much attention.
Which is of course psychologically useful... :-)
From: "Roger Burton West" <roger@firedrake.org>
> Well, it does sometimes seem to be the pick of the "European nations
Yup. First get em to underestimate you....
Of course ayone familar with, say, Italian Bersaglieri, Portugese Cacciadores,
Spanish Tercios or pretty much any of the Hellenic army that fought in 1941
would be very wary of taking them at face value.
Let's see, you're faced with 3 FSE units. VIII Bersaglieri, 2nd
> --- Beth.Fulton@csiro.au wrote:
> FCT - Though lacking the experience, expertise and
Beth, I would suggest that the FCT starts at the same level of experience and
ability the NAC has when it is formed. By necessity the newly formed FCT
starts with NAC ships manned primarily by FCT loyal crews and then proceeds
from that point. I completely agree with the freighters being a paramilitary
force.
Bye for now.
G'day John,
> I would suggest that the FCT starts at the
Why would they get this level already? Do you see they're separation as
basically peaceful with ship etc attached to the deal?
Cheers