Oerjan said
> ...this is one of the bits I don't quite understand in John's NRE
the ESU attacks RH outworld installations the NAC immediately goes to war to
help the Romanovs?
I'd expect John is basing that at least partially on the fact that the Eastern
Roman Empire got mercenaries (Varangians) from England so must have had decent
relations with the English (insofar as they had any relations at all). The
friction with RH might be based on the occasional Rus attacks on
Constantinople, and the NRE might also think of itself as having at least some
legitimate claim to the Romanov crown (or more accurately, might think
of the RH as an upstart/breakaway from legitimate NRE rule). Of course,
the Avtokrat thinks of himself as being the Sole Legitimate Ruler of Humanity
and God's Regent, so I'm not sure whether the RH are any more illegitimate
than, say, the OU.
--- "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
wrote:
> I'd expect John is basing that at least partially on
Nah, we get our Varangians from the ScanFed and dissident Ukrainians. I'm
basing the fact that the English and the NRE have correct relations on the
fact that the NAC doesn't need any more enemies than they already have lined
up against 'em, so they aren't willing to start shooting at us. And we
certaintly aren't going to take 'em on unless they put our backs to the wall.
Of course, there's also the question of whether the NAC has the British
protectionist mercantile stance or the US obsession with freedom of
the seas/space and free trade (historically--recent
protectionist nonsense is a relatively new development and completely out of
character for us). If the latter, we'll probably get along wonderfully. If the
former, we'll end up at war for the same reason that
the English went to war with the Germans--threatened
by a rising commercial power.
> all). The friction with RH might be based on the
Nope. Try Krum.
> itself as having at least
Well, if the Rus hadn't adopted the title of Tsar (Caeser), and hadn't gone
blathering on about Third Rome we might view them a little more favorably.
Now, if the Romanovs made nominal submission, and agreed to commemorate the
Basileus Basil IV, then we might get along jest fine. But we wanted New Sofia
and we got it.
> the Avtokrat thinks of himself as being the Sole
The OU don't know better. Much like any other barbarians, they will eventually
come under the rule of the Sole Rightful Autocrat of Men, God's Viceregent
Among the Stars. But not this week, so we'll treat with them through the
Ministry of Barbarians. We just don't marry off any of the Porphyrogenitii to
them. The Romanovs should, however, know better.
> --- Laserlight <laserlight@quixnet.net> wrote:
Mostly after. Originally were 4,000 troublemakers the Prince of Kiev pawned
off on the Roman and thought he got a good deal.
> > > all). The friction with RH might be based on
IMU, the Romanovs get the Orthodox parts, the Albanians are FSE, and the
Croats and Slovenes are NSL.
Albanians might have gone IFed, but that would require them to actually take
their Islam seriously, and they'd rather play on their historical connection
with Italy.
> Nah, we get our Varangians from the ScanFed and
Some did come from England, historically. Don't recall whether that was before
or after 1066.
> > all). The friction with RH might be based on the
Couldn't recall who owns (or "got stuck with") the Balkans.