[FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

11 posts ยท Dec 4 2002 to Dec 5 2002

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:43:30 -0800 (PST)

Subject: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> --- Symon Cook <Symon@ereshkigal.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> >I've updated the DS2 FAQ in response to this

As a side note: While dinking around the FAQ, 'coz I havn't read it in ages, I
noted a suggested system of tags. On of them is FH Byz for Future History,
Byzantine. Try NRE, for New Roman Empire, unless there's some other Roman
revivalists out there. I'd no more refer to Romans as Byzantine than I would
refer to New Zealand as Australia Minor.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:54:45 -0500

Subject: RE: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

Iohannes the Miffed said:
> tags. On of them is FH Byz for Future History,

But everyone else would, and you never know when some fan of Big Julie will
decide to have SGII:Alesia, or someone will cook up a FT/DS New Punic
Wars campaign.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:46:19 -0800 (PST)

Subject: RE: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

--- "laserlight@quixnet.net" <laserlight@quixnet.net>
wrote:
> Iohannes the Miffed said:

FML[1] and FMArmenian would be overall very simillar ruleswise. The main
difference being introduction of
heavy shock cavalry.  As for FT/DS New Punic Wars, who
would be the Carthaginians? The closest analoge would be the Japanese, I
guess...

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 16:42:43 +1300

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> John "the miffed" wrote:

That's been corrected to NRE! Thanks for letting me know, John. The corrected
version is at:
        http://valley.150m.com/Dirtside/FAQ/Etiquette.html

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 21:34:55 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> --- Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

> That's been corrected to NRE! Thanks for letting me

From: Don M <dmaddox1@h...>

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 00:30:43 -0600

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

First the FAQ, then the WORLD!!!

MUAHAHAHAHA!

John "Who me? Mad?"

No, just deeply misunderstood by most intelligent life forms here and
elsewhere...)

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 07:39:36 +0100

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

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From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 04:28:26 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> --- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote:

> Or another non.Canon nation: Exiles from Lebanon

Hrm... the demographics is pushing it, at least to
achieve a large-scale commercial empire.  Besides, we
got most of the Christian Arabs (except the Phlangists, since no one loves a
Uniate).:)

Unless you wanted to down-scale it to, say, a single
solar system with various moons and orbital habitats standing in for the
islands and coastal enclaves, and 3 planets as Italy, Northern Africa, and
Spain.

Unfortunately, my project list is way too long to permit developing this
further.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 08:27:45 -0500

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

John "Miffed, Not Mad" A said:
> FML[1] and FMArmenian would be overall very simillar

KarlHeinz said: Or another non.Canon nation: Exiles from Lebanon (Druze,
Christian or some Muslim sect) who make good in their own corner of space.

I think John already claimed the Christian Arabs; the Druze might very well
move off on their own but I can't see them building a trading empire like the
Phoenicians did. Ideally you'd want a decadent nation with a good naval
tradition and a mercantile empire. Hmm...NRE vs NAC?

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2002 19:46:22 +0100

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> Laserlight wrote:

> I think John already claimed the Christian Arabs; the Druze might very

Considering that the NRE has very poor relations with the Romanov Hegemony,
and that the Romanov Hegemony seem to have been one of the NAC's closest

allies throughout the 2nd and 3rd Solar Wars (not sure about the 1st), an
NAC-NRE war seems quite likely...

...this is one of the bits I don't quite understand in John's NRE
write-up
- the NRE happily (and successfully!) attacks the RH without having its
supposedly good relations with the NAC turn liquid-helium cold, but when

the ESU attacks RH outworld installations the NAC immediately goes to war to
help the Romanovs?

Later,

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:45:51 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [FAQ] FH what? Re: [DSII] Dozy question re: Command/Communications

> --- Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:

> Considering that the NRE has very poor relations

Yes. . .

> and that the Romanov Hegemony seem to have been one

The main reason it hasn't happened yet is that the NAC did NOT need to force
another nation into the ESU's corner.

> ...this is one of the bits I don't quite understand

When the NRE goes in after the RH, it was a limited war for a limited
objective, and the NAC was already engaged in a slugging match with the ESU
and FSE. To expend the presumably stretched resources of the NAC Navy in a
sideshow would be pointless. A fight between the ESU and RH is an escalation
of the cold war between those two powers. A fight between the RH and the NRE,
who cares? Like all third tier powers, the NRE exists by being pretty blatant
about alligning itself with whoever is convenient were they attacked by a
major power. Every war they have with the Big Four or their client state is at
the same time that that state is also under attack from another more
pressing threat.  NRE-RH fight from 2168-2174 (in
Tuffleyverse terms, a brief disagreement). RH had gone to war with ESU in 66.
In '68, the ESU launched an abortive attack on Titshihar which cost the RH
every spacecraft in the system, but was not strong enough to take the planet.
At some point, there are more attacks on Titshihar since in '82 there is a
reference to Kaliphate mercs 'reinforcing' ESU troops on Titshihar.