European Religioins was: California/Texas secession

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> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:56:49AM +0100, K.H.Ranitzsch wrote:

> Germany is half Lutheran, half Catholic, Austria and other Central

Yes, but if the other blocks are going to be monolithic and one of them
is _already_ Catholic... it would make sense that that bit had got
absorbed by the FSE.

> On present trends, the bulk of the people in all those countries might

Well, yes - and that's the conventional GZGverse view.

Does anyone have a copy of that old PBM advertisement? "In the year X,
excommunication is a harsh sentence. Can you stand up to the Pope's attack
fleets?"

R

Roger Burton West schrieb:
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:56:49AM +0100, K.H.Ranitzsch

According to Canon history, "those bits" of territory are part of the NSL,
however, and they constitute more than half of the NSL. Making any large chunk
of Europe denominationally homogenous in any but the most nominal sense would
require "religious cleansing" on a scale not seen around here since the 30
Years War.

The idea that Church and State are separate is much more likely for the GZG
canon world. Note also that the Catholic Church is not in any meaningful way a
"National" institution, unlike many Protestant or Orthodox denominations.

Greetings Karl Heinz

> Karl Heinz wrote:

> Note also that the Catholic Church is not in any

Indeed. The Catholic church is just the old power structure of the Roman
Empire that went Supra-National after the fall of Rome in the West.

Regards,

On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 03:31:39PM +0100, KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
wrote:

> The idea that Church and State are separate is much more likely for the

Heavens yes, absolutely. I'm just pointing out the way the stereotypes flow,
not anything I think could plausibly happen.

R

Or "Reformed Roman Islamic" if the population projections I saw were any
indication. One estimate put a majority of Dutch kids reaching voting
age in 2020 being from Islamic families!!   Granted not a best case
scenario but it wasn't a worst case scenario either.  BTW, Best/Worst
case are not value judgements in this case, just indication of one extreme or
the other in the possibilities. The case did not assume this was an automatic
'bad' thing just one that has not been openly addressed
in a studied manner by the governments involved/affected by this
potential demographic shift.

Yes, I know that projections are the Fourth kind of Lies - "Lies, Damned
Lies, Statistics and Projections. But the Islamic population of Europe (and
the US to a much smaller degree) is growing significantly. But that's the Real
World (Patent Pending) and not the Tuffleyverse...

On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 07:56:49 +0100 KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de
> (K.H.Ranitzsch) writes: