From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:49:32 +0100
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
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Euro-Immigrants
From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:35:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
> --- "K.H.Ranitzsch" <KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de> wrote: > You are right about the Arabs and Slavic people. In Giessen and the general Frankfurt-am-Main area, US GIs are not warned about gangs of drunken anti-American Slavs, Viets, or Koreans. We _are_ given briefings about the Turks--and some of them seem to riot when Kurdish leaders are imprisioned so I presumed they are at least partly Kurdish. I've never heard of a US GI being stabbed by anyone other than a Turk, and Turks tend to travel in packs so they are actually a threat to GIs (who also travel in packs). So in 2 years in FRG, I was vaguely aware of other immigrants, but Turks were a major factor in planning weekends so they were made an impression.
From: Alan and Carmel Brain <aebrain@w...>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:50:54 +1100
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
From: "John Atkinson" <johnmatkinson@yahoo.com> > In Giessen and the general Frankfurt-am-Main area, US > So in 2 years in FRG, I was vaguely aware of other a) The numbers b) They stick together c) They take insults poorly - even imagined ones. OTOH as an Australian who ran afoul of a Turk ( he thought I'd tripped him) just outside a Turkish-German club, as soon as the gathered mob realised I was Australian, all they did was ask me if I knew Cousin Abdul in Sydney or Aunt Maryam in Melbourne...
From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 08:34:02 +0100
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
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From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:40:11 -0800
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
> From: "Alan and Carmel Brain" <aebrain@webone.com.au> > > So in 2 years in FRG, I was vaguely aware of other Interestingly enough, while in Turkey, I felt completely safe, was never harassed, spoken ill of, or even given dirty looks. The people were gracious, hospitable, curious, and friendly. The only trouble I HEARD of during the trip was from a group of Chechen terrorists trying to take a hotel hostage. The only unpleasantness I WITNESSED was in Amsterdam. The Dutch were friendly, hospitable, etc. The UK football fans in town were idiots. I suspect if I went to their home towns, I'd find the people friendly, hospitable, etc. I wonder how much of this kind of trouble comes not because that particular people group is inclined to trouble, but because refugee/foreigner status tends to do odd things to people. 3B^2
From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 18:03:17 +0000
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
> Brian Bilderback wrote: The > Dutch were friendly, hospitable, etc. The UK football fans in town No, our football hooligans are hooligans everywhere :-(
From: Derk Groeneveld <derk@c...>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:31:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2002, Tony Francis wrote: > Brian Bilderback wrote: Oddly enough I found the Celtic supporters at the Ajax - Celtic match last year, a very friendly bunch, when I ran into them in Amsterdam. But isn't this getting a biiiiit off-topic? Cheers,
From: Katie Lauren Lucas <katie@f...>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:44:15 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: Re: Euro-Immigrants
Quoting Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@hotmail.com>: > Dutch were friendly, hospitable, etc. The UK football fans in town Only if you don't wear the wrong colour shirt.