[DSII] Reactive armour

8 posts ยท Jan 9 1999 to Jan 12 1999

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 11:07:00 +0100

Subject: [DSII] Reactive armour

Hi,

According to some research papers I've read recently (published at a
Ballistics symposium in South Africa a year or two ago, so no classified
stuff <g>), reactive armour is effective against both shaped-charge
warheads *and* kinetic projectiles. Currently the armour has to be
configured towards defeating the one or the other - "light" ERA won't
slow down a kinetic projectile much while a "heavy" one isn't very good
against warheads, but there's some massive research going on... and two years
ago it looked rather promising.

So... unless the MDC/HVC/HKP manufacturers get real clever, ERA either
affects them - or *all* DSII units has it, and it should be included
directly into the armour rating without being modelled separately :-/ At
least for close-future battles, up to the 2nd US CW or so...

Thoughts?

From: Andrew Martin <Al.Bri@x...>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:22:08 +1300

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

> Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com> wrote:
Did your papers mention any thing about active armour? Armour that explodes
before the projectile strikes, thus disrupting or destroying
shaped-charge warheads and deflecting kinetic projectiles. If it's
classified, let us know that it is. One idea that I've read about is two
parrallel plates driven apart and side ways by an explosion as the projectile
hits, thus cutting the
shaped-charge jet or deflecting kinetic projectiles.

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:15:20 EST

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

One book that you might want to check out is Armored Cav, its a book by Tom
Clancy. There is a chapter called Armor: 101, it has info on armor, well worth
taking a look at. My $.02 Stephen

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 22:03:26 -0500

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

> DracSpy@aol.com wrote:

Tom Clancy is an entertaining fiction writer, but not reliable as a source for
factual data.

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:14:57 +0100

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

> Andrew Martin wrote:

> >So... unless the MDC/HVC/HKP manufacturers get real clever, ERA > >
either
> >affects them - or *all* DSII units has it, and it should be included

> Did your papers mention any thing about active armour? Armour that

The entire paper was about ERA (Explosive Reative Armour), so yes it mention
it, kind of <g>

Only from what I understood, the thing that triggers the explosive reaction is
a hitting enemy round; the armour's explosion then pushes the outer armour
plate away at an angle (ie, hopefully not along the axis of the incoming
round) which disturbs the jet or deflects the proj *while*
it is passing through the outer armour plate, not *before* it - saves on
detection gear etc, I suppose. I could be wrong there, though - the
paper sort of assumes that you know how the thing works, and I haven't worked
there for that long :-/

I wrote in the original post that the paper wasn't classified. I haven't
heard anything to contradict that yet :-/

Regards,

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 00:27:06 -0500

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

> Someone who shall remain nameless wrote:

I suppose if you abruptly stop writing and we never hear from you again, that
would be a sign that it's time to cancel all our current email accounts?

From: DracSpy@a...

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:58:23 EST

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

In a message dated 99-01-12 09:12:42 EST, you write:

<< I suppose if you abruptly stop writing and we never hear from you again,
that would be a sign that it's time to cancel all our current email accounts?
>> I'm not the persion who wrote that, but I would say "yes," going some place
that does not have an extridishion treaty with the US might also be a good
idea.
-Stephen

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:47:14 -0500

Subject: Re: [DSII] Reactive armour

> DracSpy@aol.com wrote:

Given the location of the person writing it, USan security weenies will be
least of concerns. Bofors House Thugs and Swedish Intelligence Agents frighten
me not.