DSII: Close Assault Questions

2 posts · Jun 21 1996 to Jun 27 1996

From: Nils A Hedglin <Nils_A_Hedglin@c...>

Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:35:00 -0400

Subject: DSII: Close Assault Questions

Here's some more questions:

1) If an assaulting unit has an Under Fire marker, does it need to make 2
Reaction tests, 1 caused by trying to move with an Under Fire marker &

1 for close assaulting?

> 2) Does a required retreat from a close assault count as the

> A retreat from a close assault does not count as an activation. Troops

> own activation to do so.

Mike Elliott responded to #2 as above. For clarification, a retreat doesn't
count as an activation, but since a unit that's close assaulted has to invert
it's command marker, a retreating unit has already lost it's activation,
correct?

3) Other than possibly as noted in #1 above, does an Under Fire marker have
any other affect on a close assault? It affects the die for fire
effectiveness, but I can't find any affect in close assaults.

4) How do Confidence tests in close assault affect tests outside of close
assault? For example, since a unit that has taken over 50%
casualties has a +3 for the fall back Confidence test, does it also have

to take a general +2 Confidence test for taking more than 50%
casualties?

5) How do you count causality percentages in a mechanized infantry unit?

Is each infantry stand/vehicle counted as 1 casualty out of the total
number? Or should there be a weighted percentage one way or the other?

I had an infantry platoon that had all it's vehicles destroyed, but all of
it's infantry was already dismounted & had taken no casualties. The
vehicle:infantry ration was 1:2, so only 1/3 of the platoon's total
elements were destroyed, but having all of a platoon's vehicles destroyed
seems kind of significant. [I know this will probably be a judgment call, but
I just thought I'd get some input.]

6) Do you have to take the +2 Confidence test for taking 50% casualties
only once when you cross the 50% threshold, or for every casualty taken after
the 50% point?

Thanks,

From: M.J.Elliott@u...

Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 13:16:23 -0400

Subject: Re: DSII: Close Assault Questions

> Here's some more questions:

> 1) If an assaulting unit has an Under Fire marker, does it need to make

No, you only take ONE test, but the Threat Level will be the highest that
applies. (i.e. +1 if Confident and Under Fire.)

2) This one was previously answered.

> 3) Other than possibly as noted in £1 above, does an Under Fire marker

> have any other affect on a close assault? It affects the die for fire

No, Under Fire has no other effect in CA.

> 4) How do Confidence tests in close assault affect tests outside of

Take a CL Test with a TL of +3 for the fall back test. The unit must
then
take a CL Test at a TL of +2 (for 50% casualties during battle) the next

time it is activated and every activation thereafter. See also answer to Q6
below.

> 5) How do you count causality percentages in a mechanized infantry
I
> had an infantry platoon that had all it's vehicles destroyed, but all

I would count each vehicle as 1 and each infantry stand as 1. The only time
that you might not do this is during a CA when you should only count the

vehicles actually involved in the CA. So if your mech platoon dismounts,

leaves its vehicles behind and then mounts a CA, only count the infantry

stands.

> 6) Do you have to take the +2 Confidence test for taking 50% casualties

> only once when you cross the 50% threshold, or for every casualty taken

> after the 50% point?

P23. states that: "A CONFIDENCE TEST should be taken when any of the following
apply:". Since the "50% casualties or more in the battle so far is a
persistent condition, then a unit to which this applies must take a CL test on
every activation. The effect of this is that while suffering 50%

losses is not immediately critical, it will not be very long before the
unit has had enough - unless you keep rolling good dice!

> Thanks,