DSII Cavalry

Is there a consensus out there about how many cavalry figures to mount on a
stand?

I was thinking 2 riders/mounts to a stand for a rifle or assault team.

I would appreciate input from someone who has used cavalry.

Thanks,

In a message dated 2/15/00 1:45:42 PM Central Standard Time,
> bobbymock@juno.com writes:

<< Is there a consensus out there about how many cavalry figures to mount on a
stand?

 I was thinking 2 riders/mounts to a stand for a rifle or assault team.

I would appreciate input from someone who has used cavalry.

Thanks,
> [quoted text omitted]
Don't forget that cavalry inthe modern setting DISMOUNTS to fight so you will
need to allow for horse-holders - one stand in four at least, better one

stand in three.

> Is there a consensus out there about how many cavalry figures to mount

Well I've got 32 stands of Rough Riders from a Epic type game:) Oh now I've
done it. The pain oh the pain.

But they are mounted 2 to a base and it seems to look ok.

I don't think that's necessary to represent at the 6mm DSII scale.

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Don't forget that cavalry inthe modern setting DISMOUNTS to fight so you will
need to allow for horse-holders - one stand in four at least, better one
stand in three.

> Don't forget that cavalry inthe modern setting DISMOUNTS to fight so

I hadn't even though of that. Gives me a chance to dream up what a stand of
horse (or whatever) holders would look like. Probably have pistols for self
defence. Probably would be green, otherwise they would be fighting. Thanks for
the input.

Whatever happened to the convenient tie up poles at the saloon?

In a message dated 2/15/00 2:26:18 PM Central Standard Time,
> Aron_Clark@digidesign.com writes:

<< I don't think that's necessary to represent at the 6mm DSII scale. >>

If you don't represent the horse holders, you'd better decrease the fire

power of the stands. One third to One fourth of the men in the unit are
otherwise engaged.

> On 15-Feb-00 at 15:30, Popeyesays@aol.com (Popeyesays@aol.com) wrote:

Depends on your horses, I don't think I really need a horse-holder
for my Suzuki Bandit.

> Well I've got 32 stands of Rough Riders from a Epic type game :)

The only reason that I wondering is that I just bought a Epic Boxed Game (used
and complete) for $15.00US, and I wanted to mount the Boar Riders on a stand
so I could use them in DSII.

Miniatures is Miniatures

In a message dated 2/15/00 2:35:16 PM Central Standard Time,
> bobbymock@juno.com writes:

<< Whatever happened to the convenient tie up poles at the saloon? >>

GEnerally speaking most mounts don't care much for combat - and
convenient
tie-up posts are also convenient UN-tie up posts.

Isn't that a little bit overly strict? The purpose of the stand is to
represent the element... as long as I can look at that stand and tell, "That's
a cavalry rifle element," I'm not going to quibble that there aren't enough
horse holders represented on the stand.

Brian Bilderback

"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."

                                 - S. Freud

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From: Popeyesays@aol.com
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To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: DSII Cavalry
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:29:42 EST

In a message dated 2/15/00 2:26:18 PM Central Standard Time,
> Aron_Clark@digidesign.com writes:

<< I don't think that's necessary to represent at the 6mm DSII scale. >>

If you don't represent the horse holders, you'd better decrease the fire power
of the stands. One third to One fourth of the men in the unit are otherwise
engaged.

Thanks for the input everyone.

I think I am going to mount 2 rider/mount figures to a base for a basic
team, and 1 rider/mount to a base for a specialist element.

Thanks,

Hmm, I agree with Brian here. For Stargrunt, I'd say yes you need horseholders
but for Dirtside why? The Base represents 3 to 5 men....What is the difference
in a 3 men and 5 men infantry team firing? So we have a 5 men mounted stand
that fires as three men with 2 horseholders?

DS is an abstraction so let's leave it simple eh?

Owen G

> -----Original Message-----

Since I've already added WAY more than most people want to hear to the cavalry
debate, I may as well run with it. Bear in mind ground scale. I'm sure within
that are under the element's base, there's plenty of room to

keep the horsies out of the way. Furthermore, most military cavalry mounts,
throughout the centuries, were better trained to not panic under fire than
regular horses. Not to mention, with the assumed advances in personal body
armor protection, I'm sure they could make the horses as well-protected
as the men with little addition to the weight it bears.

Another related question: In the rulebook, we're told to feel free to try a
mounted cavalry charge into close combat. Has anyone ever worked on modifiers
for that? It has to be pretty hairy for both sides involved...

Brian B

----Original Message Follows----
From: Popeyesays@aol.com
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: DSII Cavalry
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:58:33 EST

In a message dated 2/15/00 2:35:16 PM Central Standard Time,
> bobbymock@juno.com writes:

<< Whatever happened to the convenient tie up poles at the saloon? >>

GEnerally speaking most mounts don't care much for combat - and
convenient
tie-up posts are also convenient UN-tie up posts.

> In a message dated 2/15/00 2:35:16 PM Central Standard Time,

Careful there -

I think you may find that the UN doesn't care much for being tied-up to
posts.

;>

In a message dated 2/16/00 2:25:42 AM Central Standard Time,
> jnoble@alaska.net writes:

<< I think you may find that the UN doesn't care much for being tied-up
to posts. >>

Only higher level functionaries with ladies of a "sympathetic nature".

> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 Popeyesays@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 2/16/00 2:25:42 AM Central Standard Time,

Or unfortunate Canadian infantrymen who run into Serbs. I imagine the
functionaries and their ladies enjoy it more.

(ref Bosnia-Herz, mid-90's during the NATO bombing of the Serbs. A
Canadian got kidnapped, handcuffed to a post outside an ammo dump for a human
shield. I really think the Canadian military would prefer to forget much of
the 1990s...)

> On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Bobby Mock wrote:

> Is there a consensus out there about how many cavalry figures to mount

My 6mm cavalry (Scotia WW2 Poles, really) is mounted 3 or 4 to a base, on
a 3/4"x3/4" square base. Looks pretty good. Of course, first outing the
platoon ran into a bunch of tanks and died to a man. Historical, that.