[DSII] Building Scale in DS2

7 posts ยท Jan 15 2002 to Jan 16 2002

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:32:54 -0500

Subject: RE: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

Coming to the trees conversation late...

I am currently using Scenic Woodlands autumn trees mounted on 1-1.25"
washers. Then I place the trees on orange, tan, and red felt cutouts to define
the area of the woods.

I have also used brown corduroy to represent tilled soil (cultivated terrain)
for DS2.

But on to my real questions.

I am having trouble finding/making buildings that look right next to DS2
tanks (1/285th - 1/300th). Perhaps I could impose on the group to help.

DS2 tanks seem to be 7-15mm tall.
How tall would a 1 story house (peaked roof) be? 1 story flat roof building? 2
story house with a peaked roof? 3 story flat roofed office building? Tool
Shed? Freeway overpass

In the same way, DS2 vehicles seem to be 20-45mm long and 10-25mm wide.
What would be the dimensions for: A small house A large house Corner store
Supermarket Office tower Mall Width of road (2 lane undivided)

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From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:05:41 +0000

Subject: Re: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

> "Bell, Brian K (Contractor)" wrote:

Scaling models for 1/300th scale is pretty easy - the conversion is
almost exactly 1 foot (real) = 1 mm (model).

Much of the trouble is that most, if not all, SF '1/300th' vehicles are
much larger than their current-day equivalents and therefore buildings
seem to be too small (similarly, most infantry are taller than their
nominal 6mm height, so doors / windows seem too small).

Bearing this in mind...

> DS2 tanks seem to be 7-15mm tall.

12-15 feet-ish ? So 15mm model height.

> 1 story flat roof building?

10 feet? (eight feet internal plus an extra foot or so for foundations and
roof space).

> 2 story house with a peaked roof?

25mm

> 3 story flat roofed office building?

30mm

> Tool Shed?

7mm

> Freeway overpass

Guessing at 30 to 40mm. Better ask a civil engineer (if you can find
one, otherwise an uncivil one will have to do :-) )

> In the same way, DS2 vehicles seem to be 20-45mm long and 10-25mm

Which bears out my statement above - a Challenger tank is 28 feet long
by 12 feet wide by 8 feet tall (to the nearest foot), so one of the largest
current day tanks is right at the bottom of your size ranges.

> What would be the dimensions for:

My house is somewhere in the middle (3-bedroomed, two storey with ground
floor extension) and is roughly 30 feet deep (including extension) by 18 feet
wide.

> Corner store

20-25 feet ? Most cars are 6 feet wide, and a gap of 2-3 feet either
side looks about right for the road outside my office (although this is hardly
a main road).

From: Steve Pugh <steve@p...>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:07:08 -0000

Subject: RE: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

> On 15 Jan 2002 at 10:32, Bell, Brian K (Contractor) wrote:

> I am having trouble finding/making buildings that look right next to

Remember that as DS2 has a ground scale of 1" to 100m that a single building
model represents a sizable amount of real estate and that combat in urban
areas is very abstracted. Still we want things to look good, don't we?

> DS2 tanks seem to be 7-15mm tall.

I'd use 8-10mm per storey in non-industrial buildings. Count a peaked
roof as another storey (maybe a bit more) on top.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:07:23 -0500

Subject: RE: RE: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

From: Bell, Brian K (Contractor) Brian.Bell@dscc.dla.mil

> How tall would a 1 story house (peaked roof) be?

I think a 1 story house would be about 15-25 feet but it depends on how
steep your roof is. Office buildings I've had a chance to measure seem to be
about 12 feet per floor.

From: Michael Brown <mwbrown@s...>

Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:21:21 -0800

Subject: RE: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

Try 1mm = 1 foot. (1:300). Exaggerate the vertical dimension slightly.
  A 3
story house is @ 30 feet tall or 3cm.

Michael Brown

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From: Jakim Friant <jmodule@y...>

Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:57:57 -0500

Subject: Re: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

> On 15 Jan 2002, at 12:58, Tony Francis wrote:

Both in Pennsylvania and here in North Carolina I have seen signs that warn
the maximum height for vehicles going under the pass was 14.5 feet (IIRC). Of
course these are the exceptions, and I would expect that most overpasses that
cross big highways would be closer to Tony's guess.

I'm working on modeling a small overpass and I've made the height about 20 mm
since that was the thickness of two foam sheets that I was using to build up
the road way. It looks fine when compared
to my 1/300 Valentine XI's.

> 20-25 feet ? Most cars are 6 feet wide, and a gap of 2-3 feet either

Around 24 feet for rural roads in NC.

From: bbrush@u...

Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:08:13 -0600

Subject: Re: [DSII] Building Scale in DS2

I can tell you from personal experience that US roadways are (generally) 12
foot wide per lane, with either a 4 or 8 foot shoulder. Your typical
Interstate (freeway, autobahn) is 36 feet from shoulder to shoulder (2 lanes,
8 ft shoulder, 4 ft shoulder).

Bill

jmodule@yahoo.com

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> On 15 Jan 2002, at 12:58, Tony Francis wrote:

> 20-25 feet ? Most cars are 6 feet wide, and a gap of 2-3 feet either

Around 24 feet for rural roads in NC.