DS3 points system

2 posts ยท Apr 7 2002 to Apr 8 2002

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 04:38:04 -0400

Subject: DS3 points system

Someone (John A?) brought up that certain force combos will always get smoked
by certain others, even with equal points.

Whereas I agree with this, using a capacity +
points system or a capacity only system is going to no more address this
situation than flying to the moon.

I never considered the point of the discussion whether it was possible to make
an unbreakable point system (you and I both know something as simple as how
you lay out the map can have everything to do with how the game goes).

I agree scenario balancing is the way to go.... but I can also see the point
that new players might want point systems (*wince*). Points do, as Oerjan
pointed out (no pun intended), give a vague idea of performance and make for a
starting point for balancing scenarios.

And as to the point about miniature sizes.... if you don't have agreement on
that with the other player before the game starts (and some intel on the
probable vehicle rough design), then you are playing some sort of first
contact (or poor intel) scenario and can expect surpirses. And if you and the
other player can't sort tell each other, when a unit appears "This is a bit
big, but it actually has a D4 signature die due to stealth", then problems
will happen regardless of the details of the point or capacity system.

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:59:16 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: DS3 points system

> On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Thomas Barclay wrote:

> I never considered the point of the discussion

I thought the *original* bit of the discussion was Beth taking a mini survey
to ask people what they
wanted to see changed in the point system.  :-)
It certainly spiraled from there.

> And as to the point about miniature sizes.... if

I like what Jon T said about this, a long time ago (ummm, around 1993 I
believe). To quote him (DSII, page 16): "We are deliberately NOT going to lay
down dimensions and formulae [as to what makes up a given size
class]...manufacturers' model ranges...differ so widely that do to so would be
pointless.
...if your opponent puts out a half-inch long scout car...and
tries to tell you it is a Class 5 (VERY LARGE) tank, you should gently point
out the error of his ways."

Hmmm. Okay, so maybe it's not applicable to the discussion here.
But something to bear in mind overall, no?  :-)

Mk