DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

15 posts · Oct 29 2001 to Oct 31 2001

From: David Tan <David.Tan@c...>

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:27:17 +1100

Subject: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG one)?
 I
can't afford the commercial thing and was wondering how one would do it
-
balsa, stockcard, foamboard??

I tried making a card template over the w'end and it was a big flop. I could
cut it accurately enough using thick card and then had to fill in the gaps
using artistic medium. In the end it looked like a really bad 1st year fine
arts student attempt at sculting. very dissappointing. Any ideas appreciated.

cheers

From: Eli Arndt <emu2020@c...>

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:27:24 -0800

Subject: RE: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

First off,

I'd avoid making judgements until after you detail, paint and finish the
thing. Working with green putty on metal, a lot of the times I have felt the
same way lookign at the raw work. Usually, after a good
base-coating of primer, it all comes together, lookign like a whole once
more.

Unless everything is floppy and leaning at odd angles, I would really give it
a bit of time. Add some fiddly bits, use some puty to give it some decoartive
bumps and such with proper PSB reasoning. Paint it and then see if you still
think it looks like you thought it looked.

Eli

> David Tan <David.Tan@colesmyer.com.au> "'gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu'"
<gzg-l@csua.berkeley.edu> DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropshipDate: Mon, 29
Oct 2001 11:27:17 +1100
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From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 22:09:13 -0500

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

> Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG

Depends on how big you want. If I were doing a 15 or 25mm, I'd be tempted to
start with a block of floral foam ("oasis") and carve that into shape, then
cover with glue for a good surface (maybe you could use primer spray? haven't
tried) and add details.

From: Doug Evans <devans@n...>

Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 21:13:05 -0600

Subject: RE: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

> Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG
I
> can't afford the commercial thing and was wondering how one would do it

Well, if it wasn't somewhat hard, we wouldn't be paying them the big
bucks... ;->=

By the way, is the big dropship available anywhere? I went looking, and can't
seem to find it on GTNS, GeoHex, OR Eurekamin, though I get lost pretty easy
looking at other things. (Things that make you go hmm...: Why DON'T they have
links to each other?)

Of course, Eli's right; even the full models don't come near to satisfying
until properly painted. However, how close does it have to BE to the original?
The use of helicopter kits has already been shown to have lots of potential.
Space ship models can shine; I always thought that the ST Maquis ship could be
great, perhaps in 15mm, and I always wanted to try one of my DS9 Runabouts,
with the 'nose' whacked off, replaced by some simply detailed carding to make
a gangway, and make the back end the front.

Not that I've found kit-bashing all that easy, but it's generally way
more so than creation from whole cloth.

From: David Tan <David.Tan@c...>

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:13:31 +1100

Subject: RE: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

I've seen at the GTNS site. It's on the Microtac page for some reason at
http://www.gtns.net/gzg/gzg-micro.html

MT-28 Superheavy DROPSHIP. huge (200mm long!) Interface Lander kit
£16.00

I'll still pursue my half done lump of "i dunno what". If all else fails my
kids can have fun destroying it  ;-)

cheers dave t

> Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG
I
> can't afford the commercial thing and was wondering how one would do it

Well, if it wasn't somewhat hard, we wouldn't be paying them the big
bucks... ;->=

By the way, is the big dropship available anywhere? I went looking, and can't
seem to find it on GTNS, GeoHex, OR Eurekamin, though I get lost pretty easy
looking at other things. (Things that make you go hmm...: Why DON'T they have
links to each other?)

Of course, Eli's right; even the full models don't come near to satisfying
until properly painted. However, how close does it have to BE to the original?
The use of helicopter kits has already been shown to have lots of potential.
Space ship models can shine; I always thought that the ST Maquis ship could be
great, perhaps in 15mm, and I always wanted to try one of my DS9 Runabouts,
with the 'nose' whacked off, replaced by some simply detailed carding to make
a gangway, and make the back end the front.

Not that I've found kit-bashing all that easy, but it's generally way
more so than creation from whole cloth.

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From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 04:04:28 -0500

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

I seen once in a magazine somewhere, where this guy made his own "landing
craft" from a spent "underarm deoderant" container. He added the bowl part of
a
plastic spoon to the top on the front edge, off-set to one side.  The
"landing ramp" was attached (i think) to the underside of the front. The
entire opening was on the bottom side. I don't remember if the craft had
landing gear, or was made to look like it was hovering. Oh yes, the whole
thing was painted green.

After seeing that picture, I have noticed that some Deoderant containers do
look a bit like ships or landers.

Search your scraps, there just might be the makings of a varity of landers
lurking about.

Donald Hosford

> David Tan wrote:

> Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG
I
> could cut it accurately enough using thick card and then had to fill

From: Robin Paul <Robin.Paul@t...>

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:40:58 -0000

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

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From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:23:52 EST

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

Maybe one of the Reviresco paper ship products would do?

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Glenn/Triphibious@juno.com
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:27:17 +1100 David Tan
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From: Tony Finan <the_nemesis@c...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:09:50 -0500

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

I'm in the middle of converting two of the "Atlantis: The Lost Continent"
AquaEvac vehicles for use as drop ships. I was able to pick them up at the
local KB toy store for $7 a piece. Not only do you get some cool bits, the
main vehicle features a fold down front ramp. Might be worth a look.

Tony Finan "Let the revels begin, let the fire be started. We're dancing for
the restless and the broken hearted." This.sig terminates with Swan.
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From: Brian Burger <yh728@v...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:02:11 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

The large dropship/assualt shuttle I built a couple of years ago was
pretty simple, but looks OK as scenery - see:

http://warbard.iwarp.com/sg2gallery.html

(The first group of photos)

It's basically a box (the cargo/engine section) with a wedge-shaped
nose,
thin boom-mounted tailplanes, and fairly short, wide wings. Some detail
bumps & stuff were added with clay or styrene strip; the whole thing was
painted grey with darker grey jagged camo pattern. The wide back ramp
actually comes up and down, and there's a twin-MG anti-personnel mounted
to fire out the back hatch as it opens.

The whole thing was made of .040 styrene sheet - card would have been
cheaper but syrene is tougher & a bit easier to work with.

What ever you're building, stick with it, paint it, and then see what
you've got. If nothing else, wreck it and use it as crashed-shuttle
scenery!

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:12:12 -0800

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

The AFV amongst the infantry on the top right - Looks familiar.  Was
that originally a Marder?

Brian

"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."

                                 - S. Freud

> From: Brian Burger <yh728@victoria.tc.ca>

From: Brian Bilderback <bbilderback@h...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:28:55 -0800

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

Oops, I meant top left. Thanks

Brian

"The Irish are the only race of people on Earth for which psychoanalysis is of
no use."

                                 - S. Freud

> From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@spikyfishthing.com>

> that

From: Jaime Tiampo <fugu@s...>

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:29:07 -0800

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

> Brian Bilderback wrote:

I don't know about top right, the top left is a marder. It has had the tracks
removed and putty put into place as a GEV skirt.

It runs as: Class 3 GEV FirCon: ENH ECM: ENH Class 2 MDC turreted
2 SAWs + 1 free
8 capacity infantry space

From: Ndege Diamond <nezach@e...>

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:06:16 -0800

Subject: RE: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

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From: Germ <germ@g...>

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:28:00 -0000

Subject: Re: DS2:Scratchbuilding a dropship

> Has anyone attempted scratch building a dropship (a la the big GZG

I've just knocked up a quick dropship as a cardboard model. I'll upload it
onto my site tomorrow evening if it fits together alright.

Jeremey