[ds] supporting sources

> David wrote:

> This also could be used when talking Scifi. Just an idea to keep

I do not have a referance to the complete future history of the
universe.   Therefor I will not be able to give 'supported' 'facts'
in any of my transmissions that deal with the future SciFi.

Only opinions and Ideas. (Sometimes they work, sometimes not.)

:-)

Its a Joke! OK!

Bye for now,

Ahhh excuse me but this wasn't a branch of the university last time I was
here? Its pretty sad when things get to this stage. For what it's worth here a
historians view;

1) All sources are biased, it is a matter of recognising the form of bias.

2) No source is good, no source is bad, only more or less useful.

3) No evidence is regarded as reliable unless it supports the ideas and
notions of the person using the evidence.

4) One authors fact is anothers fiction.

Seven years at uni just to learn that! Anyone wishing to shoot me please do so
privately.

Tony. twilko@ozemail.com.au

> At 05:49 16/11/98 -0500, you wrote:

Gentlemen;

Many discussions of modern and WWII have been throwing around many so called
"facts". I propose that before we state a fact, (ie; 20 M1 tanks were
destroyed in the 1991 desert war) that also supporting sources or references
must included. This can be added at the end under reference:

example:

and after the battle 20 M1 tanks were destoyed with no lives lost. Reference:
MG Smith, S. (1995), The 1991 Desert War, New York, Random House

This also could be used when talking Scifi. Just an idea to keep people from
throwing unsupported facts around.

> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, John and Roxanne Leary wrote:

of course you do! example:

the engagement fought by the fourth squadron of the FSE Eighth Fleet and the
NAC TF1223 off Brodsky's Star was by no means conclusive; the 4th squadron
retired, but the Swabian losses were substantial, including a cruiser hulled.

- 'A History of the Kasika Incidents', RM McDonald, Oxford University
Press 2135

> Its a Joke! OK!

ok! ok!

Tom

Howdy!

> On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Thomas Anderson wrote:

> of course you do! example:

Now THAT is cool! A great idea for flavour and verite...<g>

Some of the Mobile Suit Gundam books had sections where they cited future
works. There was even an entire book of "photos" (all art) that told the story
of the war (sometime in the 22nd century), with mock bios of the
photojournalists and mock references.

	:)

        Ken

> On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Kenneth Winland wrote:

not entirely original on my part - consult your gzg rulebooks for
further examples, inc a great description of why tanks and towns don't mix
(and when are we getting rules for monofilament neckchoppers?) and the ft
timeline, which is an extract from a book.

i'd add that ft's classic 'allie nakamura woke up in hell...' is substantially
better than the honor harrison books...

> Some of the Mobile Suit Gundam books had sections where they

we can also cite (if you can cite video) the b5 ISN special, where the story
was told from the point of view of a news crew. anyway, if you can dress up
fiction as establishment media, it gets more convincing. this is
well-known to writers of history books ...

Tom

> Thomas Anderson wrote:

> of course you do! example:

> - 'A History of the Kasika Incidents', RM McDonald, Oxford University

I've got a quote from Compton's Encyclopedia of Galactic Politics up on my
website.

Thomas spake thusly upon matters weighty:

> not entirely original on my part - consult your gzg rulebooks for

You got non-lethal weapons draft.... give me some time man.... they
too are near done....

> i'd add that ft's classic 'allie nakamura woke up in hell ...' is

Honour Harrington?

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> i'd add that ft's classic 'allie nakamura woke up in hell ...' is

Honour Harrington is the heroine in a series of novels in the "Royal Navy Of
The 18th Century In Space" tradition. There are a number of others (the "Hope"
series springs to mind). She is a heroic officer who always succeeds, and does
so against increasingly improbable odds as the series progresses. These books
and others of their ilk provide an interesting look at the future, and are
often well researched (in a
historical-similarities-to-the-old-days sense).

Bit pulpy though.

> On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Adrian Johnson wrote:

oops! my bad. there is still no 'u' in Honor, though. it is an american book,
after all.

> Honour Harrington is the heroine in a series of novels in the "Royal

the stephen baxter steampunk efforts are a little this way, but without much
of a combat element.

> She is a heroic officer who always

and does so without being very clever or subtle. if in doubt, shoot it, seems
to be her motto. if he was a DM, Weber would get exiled for running monty haul
quests.

> These books and others of their ilk provide an interesting

space empires are always a laugh, even if largely impractical to get to from
where we are today. there is an article on this on the web which i keep trying
to read, but it never works. does anyone know of any reasonable theories on
how imperialisation might happen? any scholarly analyses of the question?

> Bit pulpy though.

understatement of the month!

Tom

> Thomas Anderson wrote: