[DS] Need help with Phalanx

3 posts ยท Mar 16 2001 to Mar 18 2001

From: Daniel Casquilho <danielc@e...>

Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:00:10 -0800

Subject: [DS] Need help with Phalanx

Hello All,

I was attempting to make cards for future mini expansions of my force. When I
went to do the FV202 Phalanx I ran into a problem. Either I am doing something
wrong or the vehicle as written in Stargrunt can not be done in Dirtside. Help
me please.

Phalanx Size 4 vehicle 4x5= 20 capacity points

DFFG/1 in Turret = 1x3 =  3pts
DFFG/1 in Turret = 1x3 =  3pts
4 Troop Elements = 4x4 = 16pts Total Points = 22pts

Even though the two DFFGs are in separate Turrets let's take one down to only
2 points? Still 21 points.

Am I missing something here?

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:55:28 -0500

Subject: RE: [DS] Need help with Phalanx

No. The Phalanx as written in Stargrunt is illegal (both under the Stargrunt
and Dirtside vehicle construction rules).

2 x DFFG/1 in a turret =  5 pts
1 x SAW = 0 pts
4 x Troop spaces       = 16 pts
Total: = 21 pts

I would suggest dropping it to 3 troop spaces or stating that one of the
turrets has 1 x DFFG/1 and the other the "free" SAW.

2 x DFFG/1 full turret =  5 pts
1 x SAW = 0 pts
3 x Troop space (4)    = 12 pts
Total: = 17 pts

1 x DFFG/1 full turret =  3 pts
1 x SAW = 0 pts
4 x Troop space (4)    = 16 pts
Total: = 19 pts

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From: Glenn M Wilson <triphibious@j...>

Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:04:34 EST

Subject: Re: [DS] Need help with Phalanx

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 00:55:28 -0500 "Brian Bell" <bkb@beol.net> writes:

Brian, that doesn't work in DS2 because on page 11 it says: (Caps for Bold
Face type not volume control.)

"...ALL MILITARY VEHICLES ARE FITTED WITH ONE "FREE" APSW, CAPABLE OF ALL
AROUND FIRE; THIS WEAPON DOES NOT COUNT TOWARDS ANY WEAPONS FIT LIMITATIONS,
OR TAKE UP ANY CAPACITY. [This is assumed to be a Machinegun or equivalent, on
an external remote mounting..."

Note that an 'external remote mounting' in not the same as mounting it in
the turret.  It apparently is a mini-turret strictly for the APSW
(better then a pintle mount...) only.

> 2 x DFFG/1 full turret = 5 pts