I couldn't find it in the archives (yet) but I remember (always IIRC) someone
of the list someone posted on how the DS2 weapons systems should look:
In my own restated understanding:
HELs - short tubes (Boxy bases?)
DFFG - combustion chamber at base of tube and the tube should show the
magnetic (?) forces containing the fused material until it leaves the tube?
HVC - Externally a lot like today's AFV guns
HKP - perhaps thinner tubes?
MDC - possibly 'finned' tubes (might be very small at 6mm)
Now for the question - How do you represent SLAMs and GMSs?
My original thought was it might be GMSs were like the Dutch APC (?) from GHQ
with a mount above the top of the vehicle, or mounts like the navy uses where
the launcher tips up, the reloads move onto the 'business end' and then the
mount returns to a slanted 'firing position' for the next round of launches?
Am I making myself clear? I consider a short cherry picker mounting also. The
key being that the missiles can'r be all external (well, shouldn't) unless the
average GMS vehicle's survival is
like escorts in the battle line in FT [shoot - die] and since the idea
that it was *not* mounted on a turret until I joined this list had not been
something I considered!
So, how do /you/ represent GMS launchers on AFV's in DS2?
Likewise, SLAM's. In 1/72nd I could steal rocket packs off helicopter
and strike model kits for SLAMs for 15mm vehicles but how about 6mm, how do
you represent these?
What brought this up was looking at Brigade's beautiful pictures of their
1/300th AFV's. Specifically (prefacing all with SFV-):
002b (SLAM?) 003a (SLAM?) 006d (SLAM?) 006f (GMS?)
007b (GMS/L?)
009c (GMS?) 009d (GMS or SLAM?) 011 (Double SLAM's?)
BTW, their site is www.brigademodels.co.uk but most of you probably already
knew that...
While you're there, look at
001 (HVC?) 001a (Double HKP?)
001e (MDC/4 or 5?)
001f (DFFG?)
002 (MDC/2?)
003 (A mixed turret!?) 006 (MDC?) 006c (HVC? DFFG?) 007a (RFAC?)
009a (?)
009b (DFFG/1 or 2?)
012 (RFAC/1 or 2?)
012a (DFFG2 and a GMS?)
Feedback and differing opinions welcome.
Gracias,
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
> What brought this up was looking at Brigade's beautiful pictures of
My comments
> 002b (SLAM?) Could be SLAM of GMS/H
> While you're there, look at
Brigade have come quite a way with their 1/300th models. They are very
nice and have a wide variety of configurations.
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 07:42:42 -0400 Jon Davis <davisje@nycap.rr.com>
writes:
> My comments
Yes, When the M.O.'s arrive for the 25's I sold I am putting test orders
to Brigade, GZG (it'll still get here faster - GEOHEX's distributor -
after the shop owner *finally* called last week - said the most dreaded
words - "What order?" So the local shop owner re-submitted...),
Irregular, H&R and Baccus for Historical, Science Fiction and maybe
Fantasy figures/vehicles as applicable... Scotia and Hallmark and
'others' will have to wait for next time. Maybe then I really /can/
put those DFFG or HEL armed "Shermans in Space" on the table in decent
numbers! <grin>
Gracias,
> Likewise, SLAM's. In 1/72nd I could steal rocket packs off helicopter
A box or cylinder with rows of small holes on the front and rear for the
rocket tubes.
Probably simplest if you use a solid metal/plastic/wood piece for the
general shape, with a thin coating of your favourite sculpting material at the
ends. Use a pin for the holes.
Greetings
HELs - short tubes (Boxy bases?)
- Normal barrels or short/no barrels.
DFFG - combustion chamber at base of tube and the
tube should show the magnetic (?) forces containing the fused material until
it leaves the tube?
- Short barrel.
HVC - Externally a lot like today's AFV guns
- Any barrel.
HKP - perhaps thinner tubes?
- Usually longer, thinner barrel.
MDC - possibly 'finned' tubes (might be very small at 6mm)
- Thick barrel (to hold magnets/grav projectors).
GMS - Single or multiple tubes. A SLAM-style pack could
hold multiple GMS. Also GMS could fire vertically, so there may not be a tube
(tube in hull under flipper hatch).
SLAM - Multiple, grouped tubes. A minimum of 6 tubes.
6-10 tubes: size-3, 11-16: size-4, >16: size-5.
But since this is the future, you could use a single large tube that drops
cluster munitions.
001 (HVC?) MDC 001a (Double HKP?) 2xRFAC or 2xHKP
001e (MDC/4 or 5?) HKP
001f (DFFG?) DFFG or Large MDC
002 (MDC/2?) RFAC
002b (SLAM?) GMS 003 (A mixed turret!?) HVC & TAG or HVC & HEL 003a (SLAM?)
GMS 006 (MDC?) HKP 006c (HVC? DFFG?) DFFG, MDC 006d (SLAM?) GMS 006f (GMS?)
SLAM or GMS 007a (RFAC?) RFAC or light HVC
007b (GMS/L?) GMS
009a (?) RFAC
009b (DFFG/1 or 2?) RFAC
009c (GMS?) GMS 009d (GMS or SLAM?) SLAM (or GMS) 011 (Double SLAM's?) 2xGMS
(or light SLAM)
012 (RFAC/1 or 2?) RFAC or HVC
012a (DFFG2 and a GMS?) HVC or DFFG
But really do what you think works. I find that depending
on the game HVC/HKP/MDC are quite interchangeable and
so are RFAC/MDC for size 1-2.
-----
Brian Bell
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[quoted original message omitted]
I've filled in my original idea of weapon type when I designed the model in
cases where this differs from Brian's answer
> "Bell, Brian K (Contractor)" wrote:
Twin RFAC
> 001e (MDC/4 or 5?) HKP
HEL
> 003 (A mixed turret!?) HVC & TAG or HVC & HEL
The smaller barrel is supposed to be just a co-ax MG
> 006c (HVC? DFFG?) DFFG, MDC
DFFG
> 006d (SLAM?) GMS
Intention was SLAM.
> 006f (GMS?) SLAM or GMS
Actual intention was an indirect fire MRLS type. However, it could serve
as SLAM, GMS-H or even an anti-aircraft AAGW.
> 009b (DFFG/1 or 2?) RFAC
Intention was light DFFG
> 009d (GMS or SLAM?) SLAM (or GMS)
SLAM or MRLS
> 011 (Double SLAM's?) 2xGMS (or light SLAM)
Intended as SLAM. Inspired by the multiple rocket-firing vehicles in the
MechCommander PC game (which itself comes from Battletech).
> 012a (DFFG2 and a GMS?) HVC or DFFG
DFFG