[DS] Irregular NSF Figures

Has anyone had any experience of the Irregular NSF range of 1/300 Sci Fi
miniatures, I be especially interested if anyone had a picture of NSF22 (Human
8 wheeled APC).

I have the 8 wheeled and 6 wheeled human miniatures, but no pictures? Would a
description help?

Gracias, Glenn

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:24:32 +0100 "Christopher Downes-Ward"
> <Christopher_Downes-Ward@acuma.co.uk> writes:

Yes!

Thanks in advance - Chris

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As requested:

Now this stuff is significantly larger than almost all the Brigade stuff I own
and bigger than much of the GZG stuff I own. Tony from Brigade and I exchanged
views on DS 2 sizes and their AFV's. What I call a size 2 Tony probably would
call a size 1.

I have NSF 22 and 23.

The eight wheel Irregular APC is approximately 35 mm from stem to stern,
18 mm wide at the front/rear - it's very rectangular 'box' - and it is
(not counting turret) 12 mm high (add about 3 mm for the 'squashed oval'
turret.)

It has eight evenly spaced wheels, a raised platform about 1 mm high at the
arbitrarily determined 'front where the turret sits. Although now it looks
like the stern because the other end has a more 'finished' look. The center of
the turret sits approximately one third of the way from "front' of the vehicle
with several raised rectangle and a raised triangular ("Viewing port"?) at the
'stern' of the AFV. There are four tail lights (?) at the 'stern' of the AFV.
Very slab sided, with the side slabs covering down to the 'hubs' of the
wheels.

The turret is a trip. I ordered five of them, they came with two small
guns in the front of the turret (APSW/RFAC-1 and RFAC-2??) and there are
six detailed points on the top of the hood - 1 cylindrical small
projection at the center front of the turret, a square 'hatch' engraving
behind and to the left with a micro turret (APSW?) to the 'hatch' and a bowed
line of three small cylinder projections near the rear of the turret. Beside
each side of the turret is a cylinder with a
nipple/nozzle at the front and at the rear of the turret is a slanted
upright and forward thin 'briefcase' shaped box with five 'nipples' in the
front surface. I defined the side cylinders as either LAD or
PDS/BAS
and the odd box at the rear as either "smoke grenade projectors' or a RAM
Mortar set up. Three of the vehicles arrived with the larger turret 'gun'
broken off in transit.

The six wheeled (asymmetrical mounting of the wheels) APC is similarly a box
but slightly less so. There are two wheels closer together at one end (I will
call it the stern) and another set near the "front' of the
vehicle.  Call it 25 mm long, 17-18 mm wide, and (minus the left
sided/raised mini-turret) about 11 mm tall.  there is a raised cylinder
about three mm tall where the mini turret is glued. Maybe a APSW or A
HEL-1.  details on top of the APC are - a large circular hatch near the
very edge of the 'front' of the vehicle, an 'exhaust' that lies along the
right edge and over hangs the rear of the vehicle, drooping down slightly, two
small boxy hatches engraved at the 'rear' of the vehicle, three small
cylinders and a rectangle looking hatch at the middle of the top surface. The
turret castle sits right above the 'middle set' of the three wheels.

I use them for a CFE tech level force of Asian 'dumpees' (ESU/IC/Japan
cooperated in this effort to rid themselves of a radical Christian Communist
sect) on one of the planets in my setting. They look decidely low tech.

Hope this helps.

Gracias, Glenn

Thanks,

I actually had a look at them on the Irregular stand at salute, they are a bit
too big and low tech looking for what I was wanting, I was after something
that looks like it could plausibly have 8 troopers in
spacesuits in the back, something like a LAV-25 only about 50% bigger.

Anyone got any ideas?

Chris.

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Christopher Downes-Ward schrieb:
> Thanks,

GZG produce a useful range of 6 mm wheeled vehicles. Some are illustrated in
the print version of the catalog on page 30, e.g. DSM 103 PALADIN wheeled Tank
DSM 104 PHALANX heavy APC And the somewhat smaller MMRAV series, code numbers
DSM 105 to DSM 107, DSM 115

The 25 mm versions are illustrated on page 21 of their catalog, code
SF25-85 to SF25-90

Greetings Karl Heinz

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 09:22:52 +0100 "Christopher Downes-Ward"
> <Christopher_Downes-Ward@acuma.co.uk> writes:

Which is why I wanted them for the CFE Tech PHR types.

Anything by GHQ that is bigger than a LAV and HMW APC'ish looking maybe?

Well, I first thought GZG but I don't have any of their NAC (?) Wheeled
stuff like the DSM-104/DSM-105 (Phalanx/Hoplite) family but if your
space suited infantry was H&R sized it might work?

> Anyone got any ideas?

Only the two above right now.

> Chris.

Gracias,

I have some of these but I was after something more "traditional", may
be I should see if anyone does a 1/200 LAV.

> > Anyone got any ideas?

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> I have some of these but I was after something more "traditional", may

Skytrex do them in 1/200, in LAV-25, TOW and mortar variants.

Jon (GZG)
> > Anyone got any ideas?

> On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:37:30 +1000 Beth.Fulton@csiro.au writes:
<snip>
> You'd hope you're not fighting in domes for a start as then they'd be

Dolphins breathe air right?  I assume neo/pseudo/semi-Dolphins do also.
Dome equivalents filled with air would be more secure than floating cities or
tidal flat cities. I am assuming that to have the means to keep the armed
forces of the "aliens" (us Huumansss) that means manufactured weapons which
means technology which means industry which implies cities of some sort.

<snip>

Gracias,

G'day,

> Dolphins breathe air right? I assume

So they have canals and water filled homes with a thing layer of air trapped
under the dome or are they more "human-like" and have land mobile limbs?

If they still need water as their usual medium then the picture you're
painting makes it sound like the water is probably too deep for long term
occupation by the neo-dolphins anyway. Dolphins tend to be more shallow
dwellers which would make any domes either redundant as close to the surface
anyway or very susceptible from attack from above as there's not enough water
between to act as a good buffer. On top of that the way many mammals get so
deep is by getting a lot of the gas out of their body before going down (gases
at depth are BAD for the body). I just seriously doubt that any
mid- to deep water community (where domes would be most logical from a
practical use point of view... though yes they'd have to be pretty damn strong
in many cases) would actually require that amount of free gases in the first
place.... but this is science fiction after all so it wouldn't be the first
time biology has been ignored in the cause of a good story;)

> I am assuming that to have the means to

Cities I don't have an issue with its the idea there has to be free gas around
(and thus the dome). Besides wouldn't the humans find it more challenging if
they have to face the alien equivalent of a lungfish? Fine under the water
where humans find it hard to cope unaided, but quite able to come up out of
the water with no respiratory problems.... escaping that could get difficult
so conflict is more likely;)

Cheers

> Cities I don't have an issue with its the idea there has to be free

Doesn't have to be air in the dome. Could be a different water (eg warmer, or
different salinity, or plankton farm).

G'day,

> Doesn't have to be air in the dome. Could be a different water (eg

Then you don't need a dome just an internal wave, which wouldn't have the
pressure problems and couldn't be destroyed by weapons fire. That set-up
wouldn't be a problem (they even occur naturally in our oceans).

Cheers