[DS] camo schemes for vehicles

28 posts ยท Dec 9 1998 to Dec 14 1998

From: JDoch226@a...

Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:45:01 EST

Subject: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

I'm about ready to start painting up some grav tanks and am looking for
inspiration. Anybody have any suggestions for nifty paint schemes? Are there
any pictures out there on the net somewhere?

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 00:20:09 -0800

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> JDoch226@aol.com wrote:

> I'm about ready to start painting up some grav tanks and am looking
Are there
> any pictures out there on the net somewhere?

How much effort do you want to put into them? My paint scheme is
simplicity itself.  Dark Grey, Black stripes, off-white (IJA Light Grey)
spots. My argument is that it's chameleonic anyway, and this allows me to find
it on a dark carpet, or a white tile floor (the two stores I game in have
these floor colors) when it gets dropped. I looks nifty enough for me, but
then again I reserve my real painting effort for 15mm
stuff--micro armor looks fine with minimum of detail.

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 07:18:37 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> I'm about ready to start painting up some grav tanks and am looking
Are there
> any pictures out there on the net somewhere?

I've found dark olive with tiger stripes of light olive and a sort of
autumn orange/yellow looks good; it kind of depends on what terrain you
plan to be fighting over, though.

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:11:50 -0000

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> I'm about ready to start painting up some grav tanks and am

There was a bunch'o cool cammo schemes in the Dream Pod Nine site

http://www.dp9.com

but they seem to have lost them. I might have them in a huge zip file
somewhere.

Numerous tank/military sites have examples of modern stuff or
you can look at the GW EPIC sites for examples.

From: Edmund Hon <edmundh@i...>

Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 18:33:54 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> JDoch226@aol.com wrote:
Are there
> any pictures out there on the net somewhere?

On an Osprey Military book "Tank War - Central Front NATO vs Warsaw
Pact" (from the Elite Series), I saw a most unique camo scheme: a Royal Army
Chieftain from the Berlin Brigade was painted with an urban scheme of random
rectangular shapes in white, medium grey and brown. (I've heard a joke about a
US Army enlisted guy painted up a M113 in grey and covered it with fluorescent
colored graffiti. When confronted by his superior as to what kind of camo
scheme it is, he replied "New York Urban, sir!")

That book is actually a pretty good book for modern army camo schemes. I
especially like the Norwegian Leopard I in white, black and dark green
splinter pattern.

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 19:17:11 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

I have a couple of examples of my Mountain Stone camo:
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehable/images/ds2/ds2MtStnAFVs.jpeg
http://members.xoom.com/rlyehable/images/ds2/ds2AFVanswer.jpeg

> "John M. Atkinson" wrote:

> JDoch226@aol.com wrote:
Are there
> > any pictures out there on the net somewhere?

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:36:03 -0000

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> I have a couple of examples of my Mountain Stone camo:

Thats a *really* nice effect how do you paint it?

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:37:13 +0000

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> JDoch226@aol.com wrote:
Are
> there

Just a little point -  though we have the ROYAL Air Force and the ROYAL
Navy, it is actually just the BRITISH Army; don't ask me why.....:)

From: Laserlight <laserlight@q...>

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:15:43 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Just a little point - though we have the ROYAL Air Force and the

Because y'all were fighting the Gaels, Celts, etc, long before y'all had a
navy.

From: Mike.Elliott@b...

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:50:15 +0000

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Eh?

Mike Elliott

> Just a little point - though we have the ROYAL Air Force and the

> Because y'all were fighting the Gaels, Celts, etc, long before y'all

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From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:06:44 -0500

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Glover, spake thusly upon matters weighty:

Well, if they're Scots, Irish, or Welsh they might be. I have my doubts about
the Angles and the Saxons living in England....

> Er, British are Gaels, Celts etc??
:)
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From: Owen Glover <oglover@b...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:42:15 +1000

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Er, British are Gaels, Celts etc??

[quoted original message omitted]

From: Owen Glover <oglover@b...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:32:34 +1000

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Well Tom, that is my point exactly. The british are, well, British. Let's see,
the Irish settled in Scotland (Dalriada) and interbred with the Picts. The
Welsh were another Celtic race that migrated from the area of
Bavaria/Bohemia. The English are a mixture of Celts, Angles, Saxons,
French-Normans and Vikings.

My real point being that the term British refers to the collective inhabitants
of the island group just West of France.

Anyway, this isn't meant to be the start of another thread. So I'll bow out of
further discussion on this one,

Cheers,

Owen

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From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:08:15 -0800

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Thomas Barclay wrote:

> Well, if they're Scots, Irish, or Welsh they might be. I have my

They're nothing but Germans anyway. And how about all those Danes and
Norwegians that emmigrated?

From: Magnus Alexandersson <m96maal@m...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:07:05 +0100

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

On subject topic?

/magnus

Glover, Owen skrev:

> Well Tom, that is my point exactly. The british are, well, British.
Let's
> see, the Irish settled in Scotland (Dalriada) and interbred with the

From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:00:11 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Thomas Barclay wrote:

Germans?  Maybe the Royal Family - though our next King (Charles) is
actually half Greek (Prince Philip is, after all, a prince of the Greek
Royal Family - but I forget how they were related to the rest of the
European Royals) - his kids (William, Harry) are half English - the
closest we've got to a truely English king in a long time... On the other
hand,
the German Royal Family wasn't really purely Germanic either - lots of
Hapsburg blood, etc - and the Hapsburgs are a huge mix of Castillian,
German, etc blood...  The European Royals are all interrelated - kind of
their own little sub-species.

Disraeli called the English "the mongrel race of Europe" for a reason -
they've the result of mixing of so many different groups who've migrated
through that part of the world (Celts, Picts, Angles, Saxons, Normans, Romans,
Vikings, Germans, etc etc etc plus added bits here and there from people like
the Phoenecians, Gypsies (I forget their proper name), and nowadays, migration
from Africa via the Carribean, China via Hong Kong, and India...) At this
point, the English are, well, English.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:47:22 -0800

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Adrian Johnson wrote:

> Germans? Maybe the Royal Family - though our next King (Charles) is

Angles and Saxons are Germanic tribes.  Hence an "Anglo-Saxon" is a
German.

> actually half Greek (Prince Philip is, after all, a prince of the

Which, as I recall, is only notionally Greek to begin with...

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@a...>

Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:58:13 GMT

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:32:34 +1000, "Glover, Owen"
<oglover@mov.vic.gov.au> wrote:

> My real point being that the term British refers to the collective

Hmmm.... but how much "Briton" was left after the intermarrying with the
Romans (Roman-British) and the invasion of the Angles and Saxons??? *S*

From: Thomas Anderson <thomas.anderson@u...>

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 17:26:34 +0000 (GMT)

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Adrian Johnson wrote:

being english isn't about your DNA: it's a state of mind.

Tom

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:54:38 -0800

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Thomas Anderson wrote:

> > At this point, the English are, well, English.

This is a straight line that's just too easy. Give me a hard one.

From: John Jeffery Shoemark <shoemark@a...>

Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:15:31 +1100

Subject: RE: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> On an Osprey Military book "Tank War - Central Front NATO vs Warsaw

Odd fact. When Mike Broadbent made the first of his SG size OU tanks he
painted them in this scheme. Looks great.

From: Brian Bell <bkb@b...>

Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:01:35 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Thank you. <smile of satisfaction>. I use black primer to cover the whole
figure. Then paint the swirls in
light grey. Viola its done. But each one takes between 1/2 - 1 hour to
paint the grey. I can only do about 2 figures at a siting before my eyes start
to cross. This paint scheme also works with light primer and black swirls.

I plan to sue units with this paint scheme in a game at the GZG-ECC. I
would invite you to take a closer you are in Cambridge, UK, I fear that you
may not have that opportunity.

> Tim Jones wrote:

> >I have a couple of examples of my Mountain Stone camo:

From: Thomas Anderson <thomas.anderson@u...>

Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:13:50 +0000 (GMT)

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, John M. Atkinson wrote:

ok. i have two school friends who are as english as i am, called simran johal
and shubaniel lahiri. their families are from india, but they are english.
they have grown up with the BBC, the national curriculum, the daily mail,
tories and labour, the whole lot. they have english passports, they drink
german lager, they watch football on the telly. they are probably more english
than i am. nationality is not about ethnicity, it's about culture.

Tom

From: scipio@i...

Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:08:07 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> Just a little point - though we have the ROYAL Air Force and the ROYAL
I beleave it was because once the army revolted because it hadn`t been paid
for a few months.

From: scipio@i...

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 00:11:51 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

> At 01:36 PM 14-12-98 -0500, you wrote:
Did the entire navy mutiny or was it a few ships, I don`t know but would like
to find out. The navy also has more prestige than the army so maybe more could
be forgiven?

From: Mike.Elliott@b...

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:44:46 +0000

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Nope. The Royal Navy has mutinied a couple of times and its still the Royal
Navy....

Mike E.

scipio@interlog.com
14/12/98 02:08

Please respond to gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU

To:   gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
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> Just a little point - though we have the ROYAL Air Force and the ROYAL
I beleave it was because once the army revolted because it hadn`t been paid
for a few months.

Scipio

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From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:36:43 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Mike.Elliott@bull.co.uk spake thusly upon matters weighty:

But sometimes not the Loyal Navy... (ouch)

> Nope. The Royal Navy has mutinied a couple of times and its still the
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From: Adrian Johnson <ajohnson@i...>

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:09:51 -0500

Subject: Re: [DS] camo schemes for vehicles

Booo! Hisssss! Booo!

> But sometimes not the Loyal Navy... (ouch)