Does anyone have an opinion about the nationality of DS/SG vehicles? I
e-mailed Jon Tuffley and he said that all the vehicles were completely
generic, anybody could use any vehicle. However, it seems to me that the
Paladin/Phalanx/Hoplite and other 6-wheelers are exclusively the purview
of the NAC. Any ideas? I for one would prefer it if each nation had it's own
set of individual vehicles, it would help to create a greater sense of
identity for those nations. What do you think??
I tend to follow Jon's lead on this one, though I will say, for reasons I'm
unable to explain, that I tend to see NAC as running 'round in blowers. With
NSL and FSU in the gravs.
Does anyone else find current AFV's looking more and more alike? For obvious,
good reasons?
If you wish to differentiate, may I suggest adding which ever 'kit' to each
model you fancy; difficult to do with 1/300th, but not impossible. You
could make a case for national differences: ESU are cluttered vehicles, as all
niceties, including next's days rations and nearly
sufficient-to-mission drinking water, are add-ons to the spartan
interiors, while NSU designs, sleak and unchanged, efficiently incorporate
about everything a modern tanker could need in the internal systems. I'll
refrain from suggestions such as the curiosities of FSE kit, which include
espresso
makers and small casks with XXX on them... ;->=
If you insist on dividing the vehicles, though, you'll have to avoid
all-of-a-type to one nation; there may be tendencies, but each would
have variety. There are sure to be planets where blowers won't be of much use,
or others, where they will be THE way to see the countryside. Everybody will
have some, nobody will have them exclusively.
Being a vac-head, I won't EVEN try to work on the game balance side.
I beleive that some of the confusion arrives from certain vehicles being
attributed to certain nations in the Stargrunt 'official' universe. All GZG
materials are meant to be generic, but of course they use
definitions between different nationalities to mark there in-house lines
of miniatures. This breaks down a bit in the resin vehicle line and the
corresponding micro-scale minis based after them.
I think it all comes down to how muc hyou want to stick with the 'official'
setting put in the books.
Eli
Matthew,
I always figured that the forces could end up with just about any vehicle.
When you take over a planet from another group you might end up using some of
their stuff. Not always of course, but I was thinking of the pictures I have
seen from WWII. I have a shot of some Panthers capured by the Russians painted
up witht thier star and all. I have seen Allied equipment painted with German
markings etc. This might allow you to use anything you want. Your call of
course.
Just a thought.
Daniel
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Sure, assign them as you see fit, post it here and then, if you missed any
vehicle to nation connection, someone will present reasons why it should be
considered for a change.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:54:41 -0000 "Matthew Smith"
> <matt@smithdom.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
Matthew said:
> However, it seems to me that the
In the back of the Stargrunt II rules, the NAC are listed as having two
vehicles using high mobility wheeled chassis (the 6 wheeled type). The NSL use
GEVs, as does the FSE. The ESU force listing doesn't give vehicles as the
force is presumed to come in via interface craft.
G'day Matthew,
> Does anyone have an opinion about the
It may do to email Nic Robson <nicr@eurekamin.com.au> (for want of any other
inspiration) as he sells "Dirtside Packs" for the various nationalities. Don't
know how he came to decide about what was in what, but its worked for us;)
Cheers
Beth
I said:
Does anyone have an opinion about the nationality of DS/SG vehicles? I
e-mailed Jon Tuffley and he said that all the vehicles were completely
generic, anybody could use any vehicle. However, it seems to me that the
Paladin/Phalanx/Hoplite and other 6-wheelers are exclusively the purview
of the NAC. Any ideas? I for one would prefer it if each nation had it's own
set of individual vehicles, it would help to create a greater sense of
identity for those nations. What do you think??
Glenn M Wilson said:
Sure, assign them as you see fit, post it here and then, if you missed any
vehicle to nation connection, someone will present reasons why it should be
considered for a change.
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Here are my ideas, based on several factors - what I have heard about
things said in the SG rulebook, other people's forces seen on the net,
and my own bias towards myself (the FSE - I have given them all the
nicest looking vehicles!! :-)).
NAC (all the six-wheelers)
SF25-85 Paladin (MBT)
SF25-86 Phalanx (APC)
SF25-88 Hoplite (MICV)
SF25-89 Hunter (Tank killer)
SF25-90 Defender (Air-defence)
SF25-91 Striker (SLAM / Artillery)
NSL (GEVs with rounded hulls)
SF25-30 Rommel (MBT)
SF25-58 Slammer (HBT)
SF25-59 Hog (Artillery)
SF25-60 Calliope (Air-defence)
SF25-93 Gauntlet (APC)
FSE (GEVs with angular hulls)
SF25-14A Gladiator (LBT)
SF25-26A Goliath (HBT)
SF25-28 Wombat (APC)
ESU (those strange, very angular GEVs with no air cushion)
SF25-39 Azrazh (APC)
SF25-40 Kivruzh (MBT)
SF25-62 Poruzh (HBT)
SF25-63 Virnazh (APC)
If you take a look at the catalogue, you will see that I have assigned similar
looking vehicles to the same nation, in the hope of establishing some
continuuity. Each side has a good range of vehicles, the only limitation being
that each side only has one type of mobility. I think this is not a serious
problem, perhaps only for the NAC in DS2 battles where their vehicles will be
the only ones that are not amphibious. The vehicles that I have not mentioned
are things like transport trucks and VTOLs, which I guess have to be generic
(there is only one type of attack VTOL, so if I assigned that to one nation
none of the others would have an attack VTOL!!).
Please, tell me what you think.