Depraved thanks

Thanks for all the suggestions. Ogre and Red Chicken I have and have played
and am considering; Outer Rim was new to me, but seeing how short and sweet it
is it might be the answer. ShockForce I have never seen, but since they charge
$18 for the manual I assume it's about as full of rules as a GZG product.

Most of you, however, suggest just paring the GZG games down to the minimum
and starting there, which certainly sounds like the most direct way to get
where I'm going. If Jon offered a set of "quick start rules" (which would
probably
fit on a single 2-sided sheet) it would be delightful.

After I digest Outer Rim (a 2-page rule set is unlikely to
intimidate new players...), I figure out whether to go with it or write up an
FT crib sheet.

For DS and SG, I guess abstracting the GZG ruleset is the best way to go.

Thanks to you all for all the help!