On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:31:38 +0200 Frits Kuijlman
> <frits@pds.twi.tudelft.nl> writes:
Frits, sorry but that is 'way over my head' - all I know is that I used
to be able to post and read deja.com lists but no longer (stopped after Google
bought Deja) and the server hasn't changed at work. Maybe I should try using
the local library machines. Don't have a browser at
home, just e-mail via Juno.com - when go to new Google webpage for the
Deja users it has no option to post messages. And I have looked to find a way
to get that but 'no joy' so far.
Thanks anyway.
In message <20010423153424.C16803@pds.twi.tudelft.nl>, Frits Kuijlman writes:
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
You could try www.mailand news.com. I used deja, but after the switch, just
went to a local NNTP server. AFAIK, deja would have shut down if google hadn't
bailed them out, so I wouldn't be too harsh on
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
I
> >mean
The "deja.com lists" you refer to are *not* a part of, or owned by, deja.com.
Deja provided a web-based front end on the lists, and hosted
archives and advertising. These "lists" are properly called "Usenet
newsgroups" and date back about (at least) ten years
before there was a "browser" to read the "world-wide web" with.
The messages on newsgroups ("news") is passed around using a protocol called
NNTP and is stored on NNTP servers. (You've probably noticed that the Web uses
HTTP, it's at the beginning of every web address, or URL.)
Ask your ISP at home if they supply a "newsfeed" and what software they
recommend for reading it. If you use MS Windows you should find that a
newsreader ships with it, I think as part of Outlook, or you could install
Netscape Communicator. When configured properly with the address of your ISP's
NNTP server you will be able to read and post news online or download news and
read it offline at your convenience.
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The "deja.com lists" you refer to are *not* a part of, or owned by, deja.com.
Deja provided a web-based front end on the lists, and hosted
archives and advertising. These "lists" are properly called "Usenet
newsgroups" and date back about (at least) ten years
before there was a "browser" to read the "world-wide web" with.
The messages on newsgroups ("news") is passed around using a protocol called
NNTP and is stored on NNTP servers. (You've probably noticed that the Web uses
HTTP, it's at the beginning of every web address, or URL.)
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Heavy on the 'at least'. I'm pretty certain I was reading Usenet by '86 or
'87. Reading from a mainframe account(VM) at that. And, didn't look new to me
then.
Is Gopher still an option? ;->=
However, I already tried explaining this, and it sounds like Glenn's service
may well not have a news server for him to attach to. Still, worth it to him
to ask.
> devans@uneb.edu wrote:
I've always assumed that it dates back way into yore, but I vaguely recall
reading a date in the early 80's. I've done some digging online and the WWW
started around 1990.
In a vague effort to drag this on-topic I suppose I'd have to
observe that rec.games.miniatures.misc seems to be of little value lately,
being mostly concerned with for sale notices of various sorts.
[...]
> However, I already tried explaining this, and it sounds like Glenn's
There most be plenty of places offering equivalent
service/advertising as deja, excluding their unique news archives.