Jon,
The last 4 Crusty Starships released have class names (can I buy a vowel?) and
UNSC Codenames in the online store. The minis released before that just have
class sizes.
Do you have class names and codename for the rest of the minis, or could
you check your sources in the GZGverse future to see what they are? I would
like to include them in the updated Full Thrust Fleet Resource page with stats
and SSDs.
> Jon,
Hi Dean,
> The last 4 Crusty Starships released have class names (can I buy a
Yes, when I released the last four classes I had a little bit of time to think
about the background for them, so decided that they really
needed names - the Crusties' speech is meant to be virtually
unpronounceable to humans, because it's a complex series of clicks,
whistles and hisses from their very insectoid mouthparts - the
transcribed "real" ship names are the closest that human vocals can get to
them, and even so they'd probably be very hard for a Crusty to understand...
hence the need for human codenames, as we did with the K'V, the S'V and the
Phalons.
I had meant to go back and name the rest of the fleet, but like with so many
things it kind of got lost in the demands of other stuff that is higher up the
priority list.....
So the short answer is no, I don't have any yet.... I can try to find a few
spare minutes to give it some thought, OR you're very welcome
to see what you can come up with yourself - if you do, maybe you'd
run the ideas past me, and between us we can narrow down an "official" set!
All the best,
> >Jon,
Sorry all, didn't notice that this was via the list rather than a
direct email, hence my personal reply directed to Dean - however
(thankfully!) it doesn't have anything in it that I'm not happy with
the list at large reading, so feel free to suggest contributions! ;-)
Jon (GZG)
> Hi Dean,
I'd encourage the list to suggest some names, it might get some traffic going
here again.
Current Named Crusty ships:
Crusty Attack Craft (Corvette-sized), K'Knn'TK class (UNSC codename
"CATFISH") Crusty LIGHT CRUISER, Sss'Ka'Tk'Tk class (UNSC codename "CRAKE")
Crusty HEAVY CRUISER, Tk'ch'ch'Ksss class (UNSC codename "CUTLASS") Crusty
HEAVY BATTLESHIP Vk'ca'tk'Knn class (UNSC codename "CROWBAR")
Crusty ships that need names: Frigate Standard Destroyer Heavy Destroyer
Strike Cruiser Battle Cruiser Dreadnought Light Carrier
So suggests some names and codenames and if they fit a specific ship. After we
have a good selection we can narrow them down and Jon can decide on an
'Official' set.
Here are a few codename suggestions
FF - Cactus
DD - Coyote
DH - Cougar
CS - Crossbow
BC - Comet
DN - Castle
CVL - Cyclone
Dean Gundberg
dean@star-ranger.com
> On 12/20/2014 6:20 PM, Ground Zero Games wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 08:29:44PM -0600, Star Ranger wrote:
> going here again.
If you want to model the codenames on the NATO style, then syllable
count is significant. Typically a one-syllable name would be a smaller
or less powerful vessel, so it's unfortunate that the Catfish and Crake are
canonically that way round. Also you'd want to avoid
three-syllable names completely, or reserve them for the very biggest
ships.
(Dean, we can argue about how many syllables "Coyote" has, but I think
it's three. :-)
> On 21/12/2014 14:24, Roger Bell_West wrote:
> or less powerful vessel, so it's unfortunate that the Catfish and
From (unreliable) memory, I don't think the other non-human races
codenames follow the syllable count method, so we could probably forget that.
Perhaps more to the point, "Cyclone" has a point against it
because though it starts with C, the initial sound is a soft one -- C as
S -- and thus potentially liable to be confused with Sa'Vasku codes. An
important aspect of any "radio" communication is doing one's best to make the
transmission intelligible in spite of possible interference from outside, be
it enemy action or local conditions; accordingly, I'd
suggest all Crusty codenames begin with a hard C -- though, now that I
think of it, that could cause confusion with Kra'Vak codes. Maybe the UNSC
might be better off assigning new codes that don't begin with C to Crusty
ships...
If they don't, here are a few that I thought of, with the help of my wife:
Cornbread Candle Carousel Corral Carouser Caper Capercaille Conqueror
Phil
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 08:02:53PM +0000, Phillip Atcliffe wrote:
> Crusty ships...
Fair point, but NATO used all of K, S and C for different series as well. All
the Cs were hard sounds, and the list (perhaps worth stealing from) is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NATO_reporting_names_for_transport
_aircraft
> On 21/12/2014 20:06, Roger Bell_West wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NATO_reporting_names_for_transport
_aircraft
True, but the subjects of those series were sufficiently different for
possible confusion to be minimised. No-one was going to expect a C
codename to be fired at them, for instance. If you heard a hard C sound in
context of being shot at a target, it was obvious that the subject
was actually an ASM, not a transport aircraft. Similarly, a soft C --
which doesn't happen in the NATO system -- would inevitably be an SSM.
The Kra'Vak/Sa'Vasku/Crusty situation is different, in that all 3 series
refer to starships; it's just a question of whose. If I were responsible
for UNSC code-names, I'd use another letter.
I do agree that the NATO transport aircraft list is an excellent source for
new Cruaty class names.
Phil