On Fri, 06 Apr 2001 21:48:33 -0700 Jaime Tiampo
<fugu@spikyfishthing.com> writes: snip>
> I think you take this wrong. I was just trying to bring up that quite
That's why I asked.
Most war gamers in the hobby seem to be (not necessarily in this order of
magnitude): UK, USA, AUS, NZ, Europe with representatives on various lists
from Singapore and Japan, Africa, the rest of Asia, Latin America.
Obviously most of the in person war gamers will be of the those nations listed
above, as far as I can tell.
Part of this is the history ('as I know it' warning) of post H. G. Wells
organized (?!) war games was originally UK (read English based) despite the
presence (usually unknown) early on other countries in writing rules, casting
miniatures specifiaclly for war game hobbyists, and playing the games. The
collecting of miniatures (as opposed to war games per se) was more diffuse but
also usually small and insular because it was 'always' a 'bit odd' to most
cultures' mainstream.
Part of this 'centric' war gamer aspect is that (Using myself as an example)
that we tend to game in one language. (With me it's Englsih although if I
removed the 'rust' on my tounge and practiced real hard I
could get my Spanish back up to passable - my Aunt (Mexican national
until last year) always said that I could learn to speak it if I worked at it
but I would have to work *very hard* to not sound like a Norteamericano. There
is no way I would want to even consider war gaming in Cherokee! <grin>) Even
most Europeans probably war game in one language.
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
> Most war gamers in the hobby seem to be (not necessarily in this order
Hey what about Canadians? We wargame here too.
> Part of this 'centric' war gamer aspect is that (Using myself as an
And that was the Japanese won't be able to decode your messages either.
:)
> Part of this 'centric' war gamer aspect is that (Using myself as an
Most of the Europeans I know tend to game in their own language, but use
English gaming materials. That is, discussions, explanations and gaming banter
are in their native language, but the rules are imported from
England/America. Also true for board wargames. Makes for some funny
language when people start mixing vocabularies.
Greetings
> > in Cherokee! <grin>) Even most Europeans probably war game in one
What do you call someone who speaks eight languages? a ployglot What do you
call someone who speaks four languages? multilingual What do you call someone
who speaks two languages? bilingual What do you call someone who speaks one
language? American
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 10:00:19 -0700 Jaime Tiampo
<fugu@spikyfishthing.com> writes:
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
<snip a list of countries>
> Hey what about Canadians? We wargame here too.
As my aunt (the previously-Mexican one) might say - "Canada? Oh are
they different from other norteamericanos?" <grin> All in your viewpoint, I
guess. <VBG> <snicker, snicker>
> Part of this 'centric' war gamer aspect is that (Using myself as an
<snip>
> There is no way I would want to even consider war
In the Pacific it was Navajo.
They also have better PR them the native peoples who provided the same service
in the ETO. But then they have historically had particularly skillful story
tellers...
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
> As my aunt (the previously-Mexican one) might say - "Canada? Oh are
Thems fightin' words there boy. Take that back or we send you Quebec.
> In the Pacific it was Navajo.
Oops my bad.
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:29:54 -0700 Jaime Tiampo
<fugu@spikyfishthing.com> writes:
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
My wife was adopted from a french speaking orphanage in Quebec City. <guffaw>
> In the Pacific it was Navajo.
Ah, but do you know (i.e., what Native American group/tribe/people) who
it was that performed the same function in the ETO??
> Jaime
An American who loves to gently tease his civilized northern neighbors....
In message <20010408.135835.16319.0.triphibious@juno.com>, Glenn M Wilson
write
s:
> An American who loves to gently tease his civilized northern
Alaskans are civilized? <grin> Wish my co-worker from Alaska was on
this list... <VBG>
No, the quiet ones - the Canadian North Americans - as opposed to the
forgotten North Americans (Mexico to Panama) or the loud North Americans
(us USA-ians.)
> On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:18:25 -0500 Andy Cowell <andy@cowell.org> writes:
> Glenn M Wilson wrote:
> An American who loves to gently tease his civilized northern
That's okay, one of our national pastimes is laughing at the typical
american's inability to admit that they don't know something. I will not soon
forget Dubya thanking the canadian reporter for telling him that Prime
Minister Jean Poutine had endorsed Dubya's candidacy [poutine is french fries
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> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, K.H.Ranitzsch wrote:
> Most of the Europeans I know tend to game in their own language, but
I was just going to post something to that effect. There was even pressure to
publish some of our club rules sets in english, rather than dutch, 'since
people were used to that'.
Cheers,