combat spoilers for "Movements of Fire and Shadow" (was: EFSB: newinfo from recent eps)

2 posts ยท Jun 18 1998 to Jun 18 1998

From: Oerjan Ohlson <oerjan.ohlson@t...>

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 20:29:52 +0200

Subject: Re: combat spoilers for "Movements of Fire and Shadow" (was: EFSB: newinfo from recent eps)

> He whose name goes ever on and on (ie, Mk.) wrote:

> first, some spoiler space in case you really don't want to know about
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> Well, here's my take on it. For starters I've always thought the

Uh... What? I thought the Vorchan was the Centauri battlecruiser, which is
armed with Class 4 and Class 3 batteries in the EFSB... but even the light
cruiser has Class 3 batteries. One in each fire arc.

Or are you talking B5Wars?

> The missiles used by both the Centauri and Drazi in the opening scenes

That sounds more like the MT missiles to me...

> As for the final scenes, well, the Narns havent' changed: they still

Huge, yes. When the Army of Light struck its first real blow against the
Shadows (Shadow Dancing? Don't have the tapes here :-( ), the Narn war
cruiser was the biggest ship they had after the Minbari gigants. The Sunhawks
were bunched together with Vree saucers etc as "light units" and were, IIRC,
ordered to concentrate on the Shadow fighters and scouts. I've gotten an
impression of Sunhawks being smaller than White Stars, but I'm not sure about
it.

Later,

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:33:53 -0500 (EST)

Subject: Re: combat spoilers for "Movements of Fire and Shadow" (was: EFSB: newinfo from recent eps)

Oerjan plows through the spoiler space to write:
> first, some spoiler space in case you really don't want to know about

I don't have my EFSB with me, but I seem to remember the Centauri cruiser
(the winged guy) as having Class-2 batteries. B5Wars called this the
Vorchan. The Primus is the battlecruiser.

> The missiles used by both the Centauri and Drazi in the opening

Mmmmmm...naw, too many of them popped out from individual ships at once. At
least 5 were fired (er, more technically, 'launched', as the bottom of the
ship's 'head' opened up like a shuttle bay) from one Vorchan in one moment.

Now, one thing I forgot to touch on that someone else did was the fact that
the Centauri MAIN GUNS on the Vorchans targetted the inbound Drazi missiles
and wiped them down to nothing. Eg, they were able to revert their heavy guns
to a PDS mode, take out the inbound SMs, then revert back to anti-ship
mode and engage the Drazi.

The Drazi, on the other hand, never once fired on the inbound steel balls the
Vorchans launched at them. They tried in vain to evade (and their attempts
were
lame-ish; simulatable as if the missiles were using Kra'Vak movement,
moving at speed 16, and got to move last, while the Drazi were using Vectored
movement, and travelling at a speed of no more than, oh, 8). What does this
say for the Drazi? (although it *is* later stated that of all the races
embroiled in conflict with the Centauri, only the Drazi were holding their
own, and I think, in fact, pushing the Centauri forces back)

> As for the final scenes, well, the Narns havent' changed: they still
and
> were, IIRC, ordered to concentrate on the Shadow fighters and scouts.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that, either. Does anyone know if the Sunhawks can
open their own jump point?????? This is telling, as Sheridan did say back in
early season 3 "most ships [re: the White Star] this size can't form their own
jump point". If the Sunhawks can do this, then they are likely about the same
size, if not a bit larger, than the WS'.

But that doesn't matter 'cause White Stars kick *ass*.  :-)

Mk