Chitless Game

From: Allan Goodall <agoodall@att.net>

> 1" washer (with space in center for penny) is

I find that my figures already have an identifiable squad leader.

--> Tomb: Not ours usually. Or at least, only by pose/equipment. And not
everyone gets that.

I'm having problems envisioning this, Tom. I wouldn't have thought a 1" washer
would have enough room for a penny and the figure.

--> Tomb: Figure on penny. (all mine are) Penny can now sit in the
middle of 1" washer. On bottom of penny/figure, Q and LDR represented.
Washer has about another 1/4" on all sides to texture/flock, etc. Worst
case, I have to go to 1-1/4" washer.

> Wounded... ideally wounded figures like the NSL

How would you make them?

--> Tomb: Take a few figures, and go to work with putty, dremel, files,
saws, etc. to get some new "dead" figures. Only need one wounded and one dead
pose. Then mould and cast same.

> Suppression would be a penny with a small

To save space, you may want to make markers with 1, 2, and 3 craters, denoting
different levels of suppression. (Personally, though, I like the single crater
markers as they are easier to add and remove.)

--> Tomb: Concur.

> The only tough one is confidence. I like the

I recommend different coloured grass, as it may be hard to tell at a glance
"low grass" from "medium grass".

--> Colour is more of an issue in my groups.

> The only other counters that I want to represent

What's a "range stake"? What does it look like?

--> White or orange toothpick sticking up from a mound of dirt. Maybe a
couple of bands on it.

> 4) Dummies - Shrub on a base.

How _would_ you represent a buried mine or CDM on a penny? A CDM would
look like a little claymore mine or something? What about a burined mine? Just
a patch of earth with a mound on it, or would you make a little disk that
looked like a round mine lying on the ground?

--> Tomb: Claymore -- CDM. Something on a couple of small legs. Normal
mine, burried. Take penny, apply some putty, flatten it out. Then apply a
small mound in the center. Flock the outer part, leave the inner part painted
the colour of turned earth. (Yes, I know you try to hide the mine... But this
is just a reference counter!).

> 7) Lettered markers. Dummies which, when

Dummy markers for mines are indistinguishable from dummy markers representing
hidden squads, etc. in SG2. You'll want to write "mine" or "CDM" on some, too.
Once flipped over replace with the required marker.

--> Maybe a plastic surface on the bottom you can write on with
watercolor markers. Then they are "multi purpose".

> 19) Sniper - sniper figure

Jon now makes a Ghillie suited NAC marine figure. I bought a couple of these
to use with my Japanese Corp Mercs as the figure looks "generic" enough.

--> OUDF sniper is good too. Though he is standing.

> 22) Panic - dunno.

Spare gear thrown away? That's what you're using for routing, isn't it? I'll
probably go with rocks to denote confidence so this might work for panic.

--> Maybe a yellow lifejacket for the figures? (*grin*)

Eureka makes Special Forces figures. These look pretty good (I have 40 of them
primed). They come with a variety of heads. Two or three head types are police
SWAT, and a couple are definitely special forces with balaclavas. However,
there are one or two that have typical US style kevlar helmets. These would
work well (though, being Eureka, they are a little on the big side compared to
regular SG2 figures).

--> Tomb: Think I'm still waiting for pix aren't I? :)

The mailing list is supposed to be attachment free. You should post them to a
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asked), not send them as attachments.

--> Tomb: Attachments EVIL! As is HTML, RTF, etc. Plain text only
please!

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:18:12 -0400, "Tom Barclay" <kaladorn@magma.ca>
wrote:
> How _would_ you represent a buried mine or CDM on a penny? A CDM would

Do you folks know that the Armory made (and probably still makes) a pack of
modern military...stuff? They called it "Battlefile Debris", or something like
that. It included a
coil or rope, some jerry cans, and a lot of other things -- including a
pair of claymores.

Not super high quality, but the pack was/is 25mm scale, and pretty cheap
to boot. Might be worth looking for if people are serious about making these
counters.

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:18:12 -0400, "Tom Barclay" <kaladorn@magma.ca>
wrote:

> --> Tomb: Figure on penny. (all mine are) Penny can now sit in the

Okay, that's easy. Just something about your initial description didn't fit
right.

I'm going to have to think about how I want to do this. I have figures of
varying base sizes. My GZG SG2 figures have small bases, but some of the
figures I'm using for other SG2 and FMA games have been mounted on washers
already. These are often 1" diameter. This would mean using at least 1
1/4"
washers for markers. I also have _Hardtack_ to take into consideration.
That uses 15mm ACW figures mounted for Fire and Fury (usually 3 per
rectangular base).

I'm thinking I might use rectangular metal bases. The figure would be placed
on top of it, as per the washers. However, instead of the figure sitting in
the middle of it, the marker would stick out from underneath like a little
tab. These could be used for both SG2 and _Hardtack_.

Or, I'll do the rectangular "tab" idea for _Hardtack_ and just go with
washers
for SG2 and FMA, though it will mean using 1 1/4" fender washers, which
might be a bit big.

> How would you make them?

Ah. It's the "moulding and casting" part that I have no idea how to go about
doing...

> What's a "range stake"? What does it look like?

Oh, okay.

Wish there was some other way to do overwatch, but I can't think of any that
would "blend in" to the scenery.

On the other hand, if the SL is going to be denoted by a washer placed under
him, changing the SL's pose would work. Switching him from a moving or
commanding pose to an "aiming" pose would work. For example, my NSL panzer
grenadier SLs all stare into a communication device of some sort. If I swap
them out for a figure aiming a gun to indicate overwatch, that would work.

On the other hand, this becomes a pain in FMA and I'd like to use the same
indicator in FMA. I'm not sure I like the "range stick" idea.

> --> Maybe a plastic surface on the bottom you can write on with

If using a fender washer, cheap magnetic material could be used. Just create a
bunch of magnetic "counters" and slap them on underneath. The only issue,
then, is the height of the base with these magnetic bits underneath.

> --> Maybe a yellow lifejacket for the figures? (*grin*)

Or a little yellow puddle? *grin and duck*

> Eureka makes Special Forces figures.
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> --> Tomb: Think I'm still waiting for pix aren't I? :)

Ooops! Didn't I mention that Nic now has his pictures up on the web site? It
has all the head, legs, and bodies that you can order. I can take pictures of
mine, though, if you like. They are assembled and black primed, though they
don't show all the head and body combinations you'd want to see.