From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:52:38 -0500
Subject: Canadian Units
Since Adrian didn't want to put everyone to sleep, I'll take over! A few points: 1) Adrian, I think your Franglais bites. (Sorry friend). I think the 12e Armoured (that's what Blinde is) is the Douzieme not Deuxieme which is 2nd. 2) The RCR is (if I'm not mistaken) the Royal Canadian Regiment. Not Rifles. (God knows, this is an easy one to get fouled up... once I even called my own Unit - Princess of Wales Own Regiment - with the same confusion.... embarassing). And as for the RCR, a piece of apocrypha: If you ever want to get the cr*p kicked out of you by someone from the RCR, ask them about the Chicken. (RCR == "Run, Chicken! Run!".... something to do with an old story, don't know if it is true, about some lonely soldiers and an innocent barnyard creature.... but that was years ago - the problem is these kind of nicknames stick around even though your unit does great things! Reminds me of the story of the Scotsman named MacDonald.). 3) Someone mentioned the Canadian Airborne Regiment. It is no more (1/2/3CDO are no more, at least not by that name). It was broken up after some nastiness that came out of the Somalia deployment (a dead prisoner who was tortured). The shock to the public and the powers that be was enough that the Airborne was disbanded. Truth is, anyone who'd run across some of the less savory members of this unit for a long time knew that they weren't a choice unit for peacekeeping - break glass in case of war types. But to John Q. Public (and officially to the Brass, though they'd have to have had their heads stored in their nether regions to not know) this was a horrible shock. So down goes a unit with a lot of great history. I think this effort also affected the SSF (Special Service Force). (See the Movie "Devil's Brigade" for where this proud formation came from! It originally had both Canadian and American members.). 4) The Canadian Rangers are interesting. Experts in snowmobile warfare, they often train with members of regular Canadian forces sent up for Arctic training. The pace of warfare up there is waaaay different. For example, the weather and exposure play a huge role. Working up a sweat while putting up tents can kill you. And yet you have to be able to fight. Used to be they were issued a Lee Enfield (Mk IV or V I think) and something like 75 rounds a year. They were expert shots. Now they have C7s and are still good shots. The C7 just won the competition for the chosen weapon of the SAS over the SA-80 and the M-16 (latest variant) because the Canadian Manufacturer has made some small but significant improvements in quality and in maintainability in bad conditions. Part of that was, I suspect, a concession to the need to operate in the Far North regions. Anyway, the Canadian Rangers would do a pretty good job of engaging in a guerilla war with anyone attacking the Canadian North. Though the question remains as to who in their right mind would want to..... It's too cold to even play hockey on outdoor rinks a lot of the time up there! I mean, really....... 5) Canada (for the size of its military, not necessarily population as we underfund our forces) has maintained a very large number of deployments on UN missions (I can get hard data if anyone is interested) and NATO missions and other US-led missions over the years. We are very good UNMOs (we train foreign peacekeepers at the Canadian Peace Support Training Center - I can get you the link if anyone is interested... my buddy is the Standards Warrant there and teaches AFV recognition and sometimes small arms and runs scenario training for peacekeepers), peacekeepers, and support soldiers (medical support groups, combat engineers, etc). We have good intel people too, though mostly HUMINT and liaison types as we lack the zoomie eye-in-the-ether the US forces have access to. And our small unconventional warfare force is considered quite respectable though they don't have the history or experience of the SAS or US SF. We do okay in the fighting branches (the army is fairly good but suffers from morale issues and underfunding for live-fire training and large brigade sized warfighting excercises, the air force has got aging fighters in need of upfits and an older-than-old Hercules fleet (we serve as an example of long-service that the manufacturer uses to show others what will happen to their planes as they age and how to deal with it), and our Navy has some excellent ships (could use a few more missiles and something to replace the damn Sea King deathtraps...)). But we have hopes that the new security oriented budget will drop a few billion into the pot for the military over the next few years.... our reserves are currently more active than ever on Operation Apollo (the ME deployment and the accompanying homeland security initiatives). If we could actually pay soldiers respectably, and they looked like they had a future, we'd get recruiting up (a current problem). I actually think Canadian Forces will be a good contribution to the NAC force structure AND I suspect there will be a lot of former Canadians (or dual citizens) including a fair number of NAC veterans in the UNSC military forces. And that, in a rather overdone way, is where we're at. You can wake up now (especially the Vac heads). Tomb.