Building Babylon 5.

9 posts ยท Mar 3 1997 to Mar 6 1997

From: Mike Wikan <mww@n...>

Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:19:42 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

This is copied from Voltayre's Encyclopedia. I cannot vouch for it's
accuracy....

Type:
     Babylon-class O'Neil space station
Date of operation: September 2257

Length: 8.0645 km Mass: 2.5 million tonnes (metal casing only)

Defense Grid:
     Pulse
     Cannons
     Incoming
     fire
     Interceptors
     Mine
     launchers
     Plasma
     Guns
     2ZX
     Tracking
     System
(formerly
     an XP7 --
     a relic from
     the
     Earth-Minbari
War)

Starfighter Capacity:
     56 SA-23E Mitchell-Hyundyne Starfuries; 28 are ready to launch at
any given time

Crew Compliment: Earth Force and Administration: 6,500 Guild Dockworkers:
1,500

Station population:
          250,000 (estimated human/alien maximum)
58% Human 42% Alien It would take and estimated three to five days to
completely evacuate the station.

Daily Turnover: 200,000 (estimated) with 95% civilian traffic.

Interior parkland: 12 square miles

From: Mark A. Siefert <cthulhu@c...>

Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:42:48 -0500

Subject: Building Babylon 5.

Hello Everyone. As we all know, I've come up with some B5 rules. I NEED to
come

up with some stats for Babylon 5 herself. However, I am not sure of her

armament or how many Starfuries she carries. Anyone one have any ideas?

Later,

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 16:38:04 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> Hello Everyone.

> up with some stats for Babylon 5 herself. However, I am not sure of

If you check into the JMS archives you'll find this answer. Look from about 2
years or so ago. He answered in detail. What I remember is that the *total*
number of 'Furies housed in B5 - including spares - is 90-some.

Mk

From: M Hodgson <mkh100@y...>

Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 07:44:06 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> >I'd look at something like 10 PDAF/interceptors, 4 B Batts, 10 C

        I beg to differ - I think the damage inflicted by the fighters
was fairly minor. It was never the intent to destroy the Centauri vessel, and
had the fighters been succesfull in inflicting much damage the order to
"launch everything we've got" would not have been needed. However following B5
opening up in 10secs or so we have a massivly damaged Centauri BB. Agreed this
may well have happened if it had been a Omega or the like doing the firing
aswell. The weapons given above are largely
short range and/or anti fighter and so with a bit of care should not
come into general play. If you are a raider however you are in a bit of
trouble... I feel I should point out that my war cruisers are aslo armed to
the teeth and would shread a ship in much the same lenght of time. Ships in B5
are FRAGILE and boast massive offensive weaponary. Hence my comment
origionally that it depends on your other ships as to how hard you make the
station.

-Michael

From: M Hodgson <mkh100@y...>

Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 13:07:13 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

Sorry Can I correct myself on the fighter complement of B5. When
I say Severed dreams - she has Thunderbolts, that is at the end of the
episode as they are recovered from damaged EA participants in the battle.
For the purposes of a reinactment - ALL B5 furys are standard.

The data for squadren size comes from the screensaver and I assume there are
three squadrens as there are three cobra bays to launch them from. Hope that
clarifies the fighter issue a bit.

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From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 19:48:57 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> >I'd look at something like 10 PDAF/interceptors, 4 B Batts, 10 C

No, it wasn't. I take my info on this conflict from online conversations with
jms. He indicated to us that the fighters were used to 'strip the weapons from
the cruiser, and did significant damage so the B5 weapons
could take it out'. This is paraphrased from memory, mind you.  :-) I
didn't save the actual postings. JMS is notorious for not giving us good
numbers to work with sometimes, so we poor viewing gamers have to interpolate
(or extrapolate, whichever way you're going).

> had the fighters been succesfull in inflicting much damage the order to

Also, one thing not being addressed here is the Centauri cruiser's not
openning up with everything *it* has. If it had, either B5 or the Narn cruiser
would have been severely damaged. Again, jms was asked about this, and his
response was the cruiser captain didn't believe that B5 would cut loose with
as much as it did, and wasn't expecting that much of a fight. Note: the
cruiser never launched or had fighters of its own out. Joe said the captain
didn't think he'd need them (or something to along that vein).

A number of us online folk (some from the FT list, others not from here) have
engaged jms in a number of discussions regarding tactics, especially in
regards to 'The Long Twilight Struggle', 'The Fall of Night', and our
favorite, 'Severed Dreams'. The man is _not_ a tactician; sorry. He _is_
a story teller. Several people have offered to give him tactics advice, to
flesh out the combat scenes better, but he has refused. So we just hafta sit
here and bite our lips whenever we see something that would be painfully
obvious us that the 'seasoned military personnel' on B5 aren't doing.

> I feel I should point out that my war cruisers are aslo armed to
Ships
> in B5 are FRAGILE and boast massive offensive weaponary. Hence my

Right. Wasn't disputing your comments, just pointing out that she (B5) is only
supposed to be a match for a war cruiser, is all. You got war cruisers armed
to the teeth, then B5 should match. If not, scale it down.

Which is what I think you're saying.

Mk

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:16:18 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> Her one fighter wing assisted a great deal in the shredding of the

Uh, before this gets misinterpretted, I said 'no it wasn't in regards to your
statement about the destruction of the Centauri cruiser.

Mk

From: M Hodgson <mkh100@y...>

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 04:15:32 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> >> I beg to differ - I think the damage inflicted by the fighters

:) Yeh I know....

You'll have to let me know what stat's you finally decide on, as I'm thinking
about starting another PBEM (B5 setting) of my own. Game balance is gonna be a
problem though, and I fear that ships may just get shreaded at the moment.....
Hurry hurry with the page Mark, we want Narn and Centauri ships too....(I know
youre doin yr best, but it's what my players tell me)

-Michael

From: Indy Kochte <kochte@s...>

Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 07:48:26 -0500

Subject: Re: Building Babylon 5.

> You'll have to let me know what stat's you finally decide on, as

My (current) B5 ship stats are all online, but they were put together
over a year and a half ago when I first put together my version of B5/FT
rules. There is no B5 station there, however (never did get around to fooling
with that; had other fish to fry). If you want to look at them, they're linked
in at: