Attention Eurolisterdudes!
What's the L in L7? (the NAC AR)
Americans use M- for rifles (Military?). The Canadians use C-
(Canadian?). Germans use G (Gewehr?). Russians have a series of AKs
(Avtomat Kalashnikova - or something like that). But what does the L
in L7 stand for? Why do the Brits use L designations for rifles?
And what designation do Brits use for pistols? (Yanks use M-... which
again I think is Military). I don't even recall what Canucks use (I
only ever recall that we called the Browning Hi-Power a "Browning",
don't ever recall but I'm sure it had a code). And I think the
Germans use P- (Pistol?).
If I'm correct, the french might use:
FA - Fusil D'Assaut
FTE - Fusile Traleur d'Elite (sp?)
( dunno what they'd use for a pistol)
> At 2:41 PM -0400 8/22/02, kaladorn@magma.ca wrote:
Its just like the M in M16.
> Americans use M- for rifles (Military?). The Canadians use C-
Hmm. FV is Fighting Vehicle. L...Well, I haven't the foggiest. I've just posed
to the Ferret list asking. We'll see what the blokes there say.
> And what designation do Brits use for pistols? (Yanks use M-... which
A lot of things just get a name if they are a regularly adopted pistol.
I think the M in American nomenclature is for "Mark" as in Mark 1 Type 1A
Submachinegun also known as the M1A1 Thompson. Therefore the M16A1 is the Mark
16 Type 1A Infantry Rifle. This applies to vehicles and
weapons systems i.e. an M-60 Tank is a Mark 60. Sometime in the 70's
and 80's they decided that the numbers were getting too high and reset
them, thus the M1A1 Abrams, F-14 Tomcat, F-15 Eagle, M2A2 Bradley and
M4A1 Carbine.
--Binhan
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M may also stand for "Model".
--Binhan
> -----Original Message-----
Depending on who you ask, the M may stand for "Mattel". :-)
Mike Hudak
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I don't think so. When I was in, the M-16 was called just "Em-16" But
the Mk-19 was called the "Mark-19".
The "M" is just part of the nomenclature, and it stands for Matrix.
It's a hold-over from before they developed the National Stock Number
(NSN) system, where everything "standard issue" was regarded as being on
the "Matrix" or chart/catalog of things that could be ordered through
normal channels.
The "M" designations can and have been repeated for radically different
items (M-1 Garand rifle and the M-1 Abrams tank) but the NSN number will
always be different.
Of course, I might be wrong... that guy in armorer's school back in '96 was
full of it.
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> On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 15:12, B Lin wrote:
which
> > >again I think is Military). I don't even recall what Canucks use (I
> --- B Lin <lin@rxkinetix.com> wrote:
Nice theory.
However we have the M-9 Pistol, the M-9 ACE, and the
M-9 Blasting Cap holder.
The M-60 Fuze igniter, M-60 Machine Gun, and M-60
Tank.
Etc. There is a system, but it's more complicated than that.
And it's not Mark. It's Model. Mark is USN.
This former brigade S-4 (logisitics officer for you civilians) confirms
that 'M' is indeed shorthand for 'Model' and has been used officially at least
since the introduction of the M(odel)1903 Springfield rifle and probably well
before that.
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> kaladorn@magma.ca wrote:
The Russians seem to like to append the designer's initial: AK, Kalashnikov;
SVD, Druganov; AN, Nikonov.
> But what does the L
I assume (with no especial foundation) that this is a conscious imitation of
American practice.
> And what designation do Brits use for pistols? (Yanks use M-... which
IIRC, the Browning GP35 is known as the L9A1.
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