Brens? was Re: [OT] Clear Preds

3 posts ยท Sep 6 2001 to Sep 7 2001

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:02:30 -0400

Subject: Brens? was Re: [OT] Clear Preds

> At 11:05 PM -0500 9/5/01, devans@uneb.edu wrote:

I expect that you're speaking of the Universal or Bren Carriers here and not
the.303 British Bren LMG. Aside from the general use of the Boyes AT rifle in
.51 calibre from the various Infantry carriers. The Aussies did build up their
own Bren carriers with a 2lbr. They never deployed them though.

One note about the Bren carriers is that they were a separate design based on
the same chassis with some rather mission specific fits. In the case of the
Bren carrier, there was a projection in the left front for the Bren to fire
through. There was a Vicker's carrier (No slot for the Bren gun or projection
iirc) and the Vickers was fitted in its own specific manner. There was also an
infantry carrier with special side seating and one or two other specific
models early on (Mortar carrier).

The various productions were all amalgamated into the Universal Carrier for
quicker production with fewer mission specific modifications. There was a host
of other types made later on in Britain and in other commonwealth nations of
similar designs. The US made the T16 with an additional road wheel. As the war
progressed more odd modifications were made of the Universal carrier the most
interesting being the Flame thrower variants.

From: Ground Zero Games <jon@g...>

Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:37:30 +0100

Subject: Re: Brens? was Re: [OT] Clear Preds

> At 11:05 PM -0500 9/5/01, devans@uneb.edu wrote:

There are several photos of Universal Carriers captured by the Germans and
converted into rudimentary SPAT guns by mounting a 37mm PAK (the "Wehrmacht
Doorknocker") on them; probably not very effective, but better than nothing!

From: Tony Francis <tony.francis@k...>

Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 10:16:00 +0100

Subject: Re: Brens? was Re: [OT] Clear Preds

> Ground Zero Games wrote:

They did the same with the Renault UE tractor, which was roughly the French
equivalent of the Bren carrier. But then again, if it could move, the Germans
stuck a 37mm on it!