From: Matt Tope <mptope@o...>
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 16:31:56 +0100
Subject: RE:Bombers/Raiders
> Doug Evans wrote: > In the final analysis, your comment about the 'more production by the Fair point, though giving that the allies had a population base three times that of the axis powers Germany was never going to win a long term industrialisd war anyway. She wasn't even geared up for war in 1939 and relied on Blitzkreig to knock an opponent out quickly. It wasn't until 1942 when the war in Russia bogged down that Hitler heeded Speers request to put the Reichs economy and industry on a war footing (not a mistake being repeated in the USA, USSR or UK). ************************************************************** > Kevin Walker wrote: > Interesting! I had heard some large missions weren't nearly as German bombing raids against British infrastructure during the battle of Britain did little to impede the production of fighters, which like Germany later in the war, increased over time. As I said previously the bombers, weapons systems etc were only good for killing people but of little use against infrastructure...unlike a laser guided bomb or cruise missile, just one of which is a lot more effective at killing hard targets than 100 B-17s or Avro Lancasters! It is just that 1920's and 30's offensive air doctrine called for massed bombing raids against enemy population and industrial targets, and the Condor Legions actions in the Spanish civil war comfirmed this belief. It was assumed massed bombers over target equals dead target...but in reality it did not work out like that hence modern airforces rely on small groups of fast fighter bombers with precision weapons to get the job done (OK B-52 carpet bombing strikes aside of course, but then again they and their weapons are a thousand times more effective than the systems of 1944). The pictures (air recon)from the time show enemy cities as blasted to ruins but what they didn't show was that a factory with only two walls is still a factory and did still operate. Unfortunatley as hundreds of thousands died on all sides from area bombing it had to be declared being effective in hitting industry, lest the allies feel that they had committed genocide on the continent. Bear in mind British propoganda from the Blitz showing how that despite the devastation cities, factories and people continued to operate at peak capacity, this wasn't bull shit unlike most propoganda, and the same went for the germans, they continued to operate too. Regards,