On Aug 14, 1997 at 9:28:51 AM, Oerjan Ohlson <f92-ooh@nada.kth.se>
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Christopher Weuve wrote:
> > (the never released) _Battlefleet Gothic_
_Battlefleet Gothic_ was a moving target, and SF may even have used part
of
the cover art originally slated for BG, but _Advanced Space Fleet_
(i.e., SF
plus all the WD enhancements) was never really BG. ASF/SF was played on
a map with squares, with certain moves allowed from any position, sort of like
a chess pieces that could select from several movement options. The playtest
version of BG was a minis game (no board) using vector movement.
The last concrete news I heard from an actual GW employee (IIRC) about this
was at a Baltimore Games Day several (four? five?) years ago. When I asked
him, Jervis Johnson said that they were kicking around the idea of using the
_Man o' War_ system for BG. I still occasionally go to GW -- the
ubermanager of a couple of the US stores was assistant manager of the store I
used to live
next to -- and I always ask. I remember suggesting to him that the
command bunker in Nottingham should call up JT and see about licensing FT as
BG, not that there was a snowball's chance in hell that they would ever do
such a
thing...
Excerpts from FT: 14-Aug-97 Battlefleet Gothic (was Re:.. by
"Christopher Weuve"@wiza
> On Aug 14, 1997 at 9:28:51 AM, Oerjan Ohlson <f92-ooh@nada.kth.se>
wrote:
> > IIRC, "Space Fleet" was "Battlefleet Gothic Light" - ie, BC was a
Shameless plug: http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~at2u/sfleet.html
^_^
> _Battlefleet Gothic_ was a moving target, and SF may even have used
Fascinating... I never realized they did have a playtest version of BG, though
one of my friends (who was a painter for GWUS) said he'd seen some prototype
Ork spacecraft.
> The last concrete news I heard from an actual GW employee (IIRC) about
The guy I talked to recently, at MarCon 32, was not anyone recognizable, but
he commented that Man o' War wouldn't be suitable for a direct conversion
because the movement system would need altering, and some of the special rules
would need cleaning up. Now, either I hit on one of
the few GW employees who likes Space Fleet/starship combat (though he
*was* hanging out at the Silent Death game) or they are doing
playtesting/tinkering with the idea. (Or, I guess he was involved way
back when... ah, well.) I do recall Jervis saying at Games Day '96 that Andy
Chambers was hot to work on BG, though.
And, come to think of it, if B5Wars sells well, GW may try to enter the
spaceship market again... you never know. (They *are* a miniatures company,
after alll.)
> On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Christopher Weuve wrote:
> On Aug 14, 1997 at 9:28:51 AM, Oerjan Ohlson <f92-ooh@nada.kth.se>
wrote:
> > On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, Christopher Weuve wrote:
Many years ago, before Space Fleet was published, GW announced that they were
working on a space combat game with the working name Battlefleet Gothic. IIRC,
the first such mentions came around WD100 or so. In either WD109 or 119, they
stopped talking about BG and
published a lot of sketches and pre-artworks for Space Fleet. In WDs
139-141 and 146-147 they published the Advanced Space Fleet rules,
and at about the same time Space Fleet was published - including,
among very few other things, two Gothic-class battleships.
BG _was_ the working name for a space combat game, but GW chickened
out and published a "light" version - far too "light", as it turned
out. Now they seem to be talking about redoing it, using some MoW
mechanics - Aaron mentioned this one year or so ago, after his
communication with GW about the rights to the rules and pictures from said WDs
(now published on his homepage, see his post earlier today).
Later,