> Presumably these ratings don't match exactly with the ratings on the
I was kinda thinkin' like a 2 to 1 ratio just to keep the numbers low...after
all this IS Full Thrust..
> > If a Shadow Cruiser is in a ship's Forward Arc, and within the
> > "Lock" the Shadow Cruiser.
When Lyta Alexander engaged the Shadow Cruiser she declared that she needed a
"line of sight" in order for it to work, so they moved White Star so that it
pointed at the Shadow vessel.
Now just to PLAYTEST it.....;-)
> Big smiles! Biiiig smiles!
*paiful, worried grimace...PAIIINFULLL WORRRIED GRIMMMACE....*
;-)
> Mike Wikan wrote:
> After FINALLY seeing Walkabout, Here are my first pass telepath v.
Having FINALLY seen it myself, here are my comments. :-) I'd say it
looks great; the exhaustion factor keeps telepaths from becoming invinceable.
Only 2 minor quibbles....
> Telepaths are rated P1-P6
Presumably these ratings don't match exactly with the ratings on the show, as
we know there are human telepaths with ratings of P12 or better. But then,
there's no reason why the ratings NEED to match...
> If a Shadow Cruiser is in a ship's Forward Arc, and within the
Why only in the forward arc? I wouldn't have thought telepaths would have
limited facing?
> From: "Mike Wikan" <mww@n-space.com>
...
> When Lyta Alexander engaged the Shadow Cruiser she declared that she
> needed a "line of sight" in order for it to work, so they moved
Um, can't windows point in other directions? They only pointed the White Star
at the Shadow because a) the bridge windows were pointed that way, and b)
dramatic action.
And besides, were all of the Minbari looking out one big bay window,
or what? Maybe just low-level telepaths need windows.
> Presumably these ratings don't match exactly with the ratings on the
But I *like* 'P10'. I like how it sounds, how it rollllls off the tongue...
:-)
> > If a Shadow Cruiser is in a ship's Forward Arc, and within the
Ay, laddie, 'tis true, but note: the Minbari telepaths *didn't* need
line-o-sight. They just reached out and 'touched' the Shadows. Also,
Bester didn't need line-o-sight, either.
It is my thinking/theory (uh-oh!) that human telepaths have been
'brainwashed'
(so to speak ;) into believing they must have line-o-sight. Or maybe
it's skill level, a level that human telepaths are generally *not* encouraged
to develop. Note: Bester has demonstrated for us on at least *two* occassions
he did not
need line-of-sight to detect or touch or sense something. Area of
effect. Or affect. Whichever. So humans could maybe be 'bought' at a lower
cost than other
races' telepaths and only have a facing of 1-arc (doesn't have to be
forward, can change from round to round as the telepath faces different
'windows'). Say, the cost would be, oh, heck, I dunno, 50 pts? 60 pts? 75 pts?
As opposed to the 100 pts. Per level, that is.
> Now just to PLAYTEST it.....;-)
This a *hint*, Captain Wikan? Have you bothered checking around on other ships
in the current scenario to see if *they* might have telepaths aboard already??
Just because I mentioned [publically] that I like your idea *doesn't* preclude
the possibility I may have already come up with something similar...
;-) ;-)
Big smiles! Biiiig smiles!
Mk
> On [Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:32:24 -0400] FieldScott@aol.com wrote:
But then,
> there's no reason why the ratings NEED to match...
I think it was done for convenience of dice rolling, and to keep the ranges
reasonable. You could say game P =.5 'real' P.
> > If a Shadow Cruiser is in a ship's Forward Arc, and within the
In B5, telepathy only works on line of sight (been stated several times,
although it's been contradicted several times too). The minbari have their
groovy VR display tech, so I don't think they should suffer from this
restriction..
TTFN
Jon
> Mike Wikan wrote:
> Now just to PLAYTEST it.....;-)
Naw, I'm sure it works fine, no need to go trying it out. Nope, no need at
all. No, really, just forget about it.
:-)
> Alun, you don't seem to understand. For all intents and
*SMOOTCH--SMOOOTTCH**
Foul! Foul! Kissing up to GM ALERT!!!!!!
Penalty 500km, First down! ;-)
> Jon wrote:
> > Why only in the forward arc? I wouldn't have thought telepaths
Which brings up the interesting question: do viewscreens count as
line-of-sight? I find it hard to believe that a ship as advanced as the
White Star has a big vulnerable window on the bridge. I'm sure it's not made
of plexiglass, but still....
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 10:30:56 -0400
...
> Which brings up the interesting question: do viewscreens count as
But still, it's got one. Silly, isn't it?
SPOILER B5... episode: Walkabout P O I L E R
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-------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------
"When Lyta Alexander engaged the Shadow Cruiser she declared that she needed a
"line of sight" in order for it to work, so they moved White Star so that it
pointed at the Shadow vessel."
-------------------- End Original Message --------------------
What she said was "I need a line of sight". It means it helps if a telepath
can "visualize" a specific target. While she could visulize a typical Shadow
ship, she knew it would be helpful to identify the specific target. She
suscpected she would be pushing her limits.
They probably pointed the White Star at the Shadow Cruiser because the main
sensor points forward (also possibly the strongest shields or armor*).
Place your bets! How long will it take the Shadows to place their telepaths
ships to counter this tactic? Sounds like a good strategy anyway. Use
telepaths
to confuse/distract the crew on opposing vessels (Yes, I know they were
attacking the bio-vessel).
> > Praise KOCHTE!
KOCHTE? KOCHTE? Hmm... Kosh? Kosh?
Nyah....
> Alun, you don't seem to understand. For all intents and
Although, not as good looking. But then who could be.
> In B5, telepathy only works on line of sight (been stated several
I think we're missing the big flick here. The Minbari didn't have blood coming
out of their eyes holding one shadow vessel each, and their eyes were
shut _and_ they weren't even on the bridge or near a viewport...
Propose this: LOS gives a +1 bonus for the telepath target roll, this
modifier cannot raise the final roll above 5.
(Therefore, it doesn't matter if your P10 is closing his eyes, blindfolded, or
just blind)
> Alun, you don't seem to understand. For all intents and
Not by a loooonnnnnng shot (who said 'gods' need to be good-looking? ;)
> But then who could be.
Lyta.
;-)
> In B5, telepathy only works on line of sight (been stated several
Well, actually, there was at least one Minbari telepath whose eyes were a
bit...roving, shall we say. Not shut.
> Propose this: LOS gives a +1 bonus for the telepath target roll, this
I still hold that LOS is a 'crutch' with telepaths (human telepaths, anyway).
Maybe we'll get more info on this come the rest of season 3 and then come
season 4 (and that means, all you guys on this side of the pond, we put
adequate spoiler space in those msgs!:). I won't comment about the rest of
season 3 (whether or not any are warrented on this topic) until after they've
finished airing here (although I *have* seen 'em:).
Ehhh, my 2 pence worth.
Mk
> Gee, that photon torpedo was clo-#/&%*.. NO CARRIER wrote:
If he
> >
;)
> >But then who could be.
<*>
Yes, but not quite a god.
> > Mike Wikan wrote:
[the return of the spoiler space.]
This message has some mild spoilers for B5 season 3 - shouldn't be a
problem for folks in the UK or US, but may be for those elsewhere]
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[Re: rules for using telepaths to stop shadow ships in FT]
> Alun Thomas wrote:
> Mark A. Siefert wrote:
Hey, I understand the situation - I just think we should be careful what
we pray for...