Well considering that the FSE is French dominated, and the NSL is German
dominated, it makes sense from a background sense. Historically, the Germans
have always been beating on the French, and it was this animosity between the
two that led to the NSL splitting off from the European Union (if I remember
what I read in FT correctly):)
> On Fri, 22 May 1998, Beth Fulton wrote:
> G'day all,
> At 10:33 AM 5/22/98 +0100, you wrote:
Funny I always thought that the FSE were the natural enemies of all senteient
beings in known space?
Of course every NSL worth their weight wants to take revenge on the FSE.
BTW I missed all the talk on the Fleetbook and am still waiting on Nic to get
more in for me. Could someone give a breif blurb about the changes and what
the different nations fleets are like?
> Cheers
> In a message dated 98-05-21 20:39:46 EDT, Beth writes:
<< [Mind you this suits me down to the ground as my husband has been NSL from
the beginning and as an FT introductory gesture got me an FSE fleet for
Mothers' Day. >>
RE the previous posts about the size of the FSE SDN(?), and presumably the
rest of the FSE fleet designs; and all of the times I have been privileged to
play FT against (or with) women:
Nic, you gave her the biggest ships? Oh, we are _toast_. Like they
need more advantages. Game over, man.
Seriously, due to the extension forward of the historical-political
relationships in FT, the NSL & FSE usually come down on opposite sides of the
political coin. Traditionally, 2 world wars notwithstanding, England and
Germany have had a good relationship. There is a far longer tradition of
animosity between France and England & France and Germany. Note that most of
this also precedes a unified German state. And taking the 31 Years War (as a
prof so eloquently put it) into account, the German/French relationship
hasn't improved much. Anyway, the traditional rivalry is fun to play (both
sides lend themselves to cariacture well), and allows NSL players to paste the
French AGAIN, and allows FSE players to show the uppity Boche a thing or two.
> Chad Lubrecht wrote:
Chad, A certain degree of anamosity was generated between 1790 and 1815. The
French were very hard on the Austrian Empire and not
much better on thier German allies. The Germans seemed to be
good cannon fodder for the French or by the French, take your pick.
France as a state has existed far longer than Germany.
Bye for now,
> You wrote:
The FSE is composed of Frenchmen (so they annexed Spain and Italy. Who really
runs thing?), hence are natural enemies of... damn near any
right-thinking person. . . ;)
> You wrote:
> Seriously, due to the extension forward of the historical-political
von Moltke the Elder (the only one worthy of the name) put it this way, "Among
the great Powers, England necessarily required a strong ally upon the
Continent. It would find none which would better correspond to all its
interests than a united Germany, which can never claim command of the sea."
German and English interests have only come into
conflict twice--and once was the fault of a madman, the other was the
fault of the French and Russians (but anyone who wishes to discuss in
detail the nature of the origens of WWI should go to e-mail).
longer tradition of >animosity between France and England & France and
Germany. Note that most of >this also precedes a unified German state. And
taking the 31 Years War (as a >prof so eloquently put it) into
account, the German/French relationship hasn't >improved much. Anyway,
the traditional rivalry is fun to play (both sides >lend themselves to
cariacture well), and allows NSL players to paste the >French AGAIN, and
allows FSE players to show the uppity Boche a thing or two.
Besides, it's very plausible to have joint EC colonies (Extra-solar
colonization begins in 2069, with even the PAU and Islamic Fed getting into it
by the next year, EC breaks up in 2101) for the French and Germans to fight
over. Also note that the two were de facto unified for 100 years, and no one
fights like divorced couples, no?
Yeah, I never meant that the Germans weren't justified in beating on the
French:) And by germans I dont' just mean the state of Germany, but back when
it was just the Holy Roman Empire, and maybe before....
> On Thu, 21 May 1998, John Leary wrote:
> Chad Lubrecht wrote:
> G'day all,
Hi, Beth
Yes, the FSE and NSL are highly antagonistic towards each other, just like the
Germans and the French for the last few hundred (thousand??) years. You should
find the NSL and FSE fleets fight in very different styles, which just adds to
the fun....
G'day all, I've finally managed to find time to have a flick through the
fleetbook (actually I finally managed to crowbar it out of my hubbie's paws)
and I'd just like to say it looks pretty good Jon. One question. Are the FSE
and NSL equipped mainly to oppose each other (as their ship config suggests)?
[Mind you this suits me down to the ground as my husband has been NSL
from the beginning and as an FT introductory gesture got me an FSE fleet for
Mothers' Day. (Thank you as always Nic)]
Cheers
In message <3.0.1.32.19980522111104.006aa540@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au>
> Jason Stephensen <J.Stephensen@fbs.gu.edu.au> wrote:
> At 10:33 AM 5/22/98 +0100, you wrote:
and I'd
> >just like to say it looks pretty good Jon. One question. Are the FSE
Whole reason I chose to buy a small FSE fleet was because I wanted a 'bad
guys' fleet, and the French arm of the FSE just seemed to be the obvious
choice for some reason...
> Of course every NSL worth their weight wants to take revenge on the
Yeah! :)
[snippage]
> Whole reason I chose to buy a small FSE fleet was because I
Funny, I bought NSL ships for the very same reason, being dedicated to the FSE
from before we had "official" designs.