[ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

6 posts ยท Jun 2 1999 to Jun 3 1999

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:04:52 -0400

Subject: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

Hi folks,

I just realized it's been a while since I've made any mention about
the WWW GZG-L archives, so, here it is:

Starship Jockeys
http://people.canoe.ca/jhan/ft

Featuring:
        GZG-L and FTGZG-L Mailing List Archives
House Rules and Universe Rules FT Showdown and FT Racing
        Gateway to GZG-ECC Information

The archives aren't searchable, alas, because of cgi policy here at the
company. But they are indexable by the large scale search engines, and you can
find things that way.

Thanks,
J.

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:36:36 +0100

Subject: RE: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

> The archives aren't searchable, alas, because of cgi policy here at

I use this search key in Alta Vista http://www.altavista.com/
to find stuff by subject line

+The +GZG +Digest +<subject terms>

For example:

+The +GZG +Digest +SV

Finds all the recent posts on the Savasku

From: Donald Hosford <hosford.donald@a...>

Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:55:30 -0400

Subject: Re: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

> Tim Jones wrote:

> >The archives aren't searchable, alas, because of cgi policy here at

That is really COOL!   :-)

How does it know to search the GZG archives?

From: Tim Jones <Tim.Jones@S...>

Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:41:41 +0100

Subject: RE: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

> +The +GZG +Digest +SV

Cos in all the interverse the strings 'The' 'GZG' 'Digest' all appear only on
the GZG archives, lets hope it stays that way.

From: Jerry Han <jhan@w...>

Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 07:22:45 -0400

Subject: Re: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

> Tim Jones wrote:

It's also some active maintainence; making sure the big search engines
know about my little site and keep coming back to re-index.

J.

From: Thomas Anderson <thomas.anderson@u...>

Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:47:16 +0100 (BST)

Subject: Re: [ARCHIVES] Unpredictable Periodic Announcement

> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Donald Hosford wrote:

> Tim Jones wrote:

it can be made cooler.

for a start, altavista ignores the "+the": "the" is a 'stopword', ie
it's ignored because almost every page has it in. thus, you can leave that
out.

next, this will find other things, eg a page with "i tried to digest the GZG
sa'vasku rules, but i found them too complex". thus, rather than

+the +gzg +digest +<search term>

use

+"the gzg digest" +<search term>

which will look for just that string, with the words together in that order.
even better, use:

+url:http://people.canoe.ca/jhan/ft/Archive/ +<search term>

which will restrict the search to files in the ft archives on jerry's
site. note that this includes the old ftgzg-l archives, which to my mind
is a good thing.

i used to use this technique to search the internic's rfc archives until i
found a proper rfc searcher.

well well well, whoever thought debugging and optimising altavista queries
would be a field of expertise? it's already a crucial part of being a
professional web searcher, i suppose. it's only a matter of time before
there's a "for dummies" book on it.

tom