AFV Driving was RE: Titanium snails

4 posts ยท Jun 28 2002 to Jun 28 2002

From: KH.Ranitzsch@t... (K.H.Ranitzsch)

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:54:14 +0200

Subject: Re: AFV Driving was RE: Titanium snails

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From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 12:03:52 -0400

Subject: AFV Driving was RE: Titanium snails

> At 8:10 AM -0700 6/28/02, John Atkinson wrote:

The US seems to really favor the T-Bar as a method of control. The
M114's have them as well.

This fellow has a very nicely restored M114. There are some good photo's of
the inside.

Scorpions have an odd control arrangement of levers as I recall. The strange
thing being that braking force changes based on the gear ratio that you have.
They are tricky in turns when you change gears as the turn radius will get
larger on you at lower ratios. However, once you get used to that, I've read
that they are a dream to drive and are pretty fast for armor.
See http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/scorpion.html
(this of course goes for the entire CVR(T) family:
Scorpion/Scimitar/Striker/ Samaritan/Sampson/Spartan)

http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/church/church1.html
this shows a great view of the drivers position on a Churchill tank. Note the
double tiller bar (sort of like the US T bar arrangement)

(Hopefully, I'll get some drivers time with one of these at the Alan Cors Tank
day event. I've got the uniform kit ready to go)

Here's a Centurion AVRE
http://www.kithobbyist.com/AFVInteriors/centavre/centavr2.html
This has the more traditional levers on either side of the driver and
the dual foot pedals/central gear shifter.

From: John Atkinson <johnmatkinson@y...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 09:12:51 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: AFV Driving was RE: Titanium snails

> --- Ryan M Gill <rmgill@mindspring.com> wrote:

> The US seems to really favor the T-Bar as a method

It's easy to use and fairly simple. What's not to like? You start screwing
around with complex levers and soforth and if you have to crew your tanks with
kids fresh from basic training you'll start getting foulups.

From: Ryan Gill <rmgill@m...>

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 14:37:13 -0400

Subject: Re: AFV Driving was RE: Titanium snails

> At 9:12 AM -0700 6/28/02, John Atkinson wrote:

No argument there. However, some times the designers go for something more.
Take the Daimler Fluid Coupling and the Epicyclic Preselector Gearbox in my
ferret. I'm not certain why Alvis went with what they did in the CVR(T), but
they kept the same setup in the Fox (CVR(W)) as was in the Ferret, Daimler
Armoured Car and Daimler Dingo.