ADTDL page has lots of stuff on combat engineering

2 posts ยท May 8 1998 to May 8 1998

From: Peter Mancini <peter_mancini@m...>

Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:35:02 -0400

Subject: ADTDL page has lots of stuff on combat engineering

http://www.atsc-army.org/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/5-102/Appd.htm#s11

Some of it, all it probably, can be used in DSII or SGII. I was intrigued by
the Wire obstacle details. 1 Platoon hour to lay 300m of Satan's Slinky.

Now we just need some rules for how MF would work. There are a lot of web
sites that talk about MF but they discuss it in terms of textiles and fishing
rods. The two types I've seen are Nylon and Glass. I had always assumed metal,
but I guess it need not be. If these are true monomolecular filiaments, how is
it that they are not terribly dangerous? Is it we are wrong to assume that
they are difficult to handle? Also, if they are so good at cutting that even
gravity offers enough force, how would you store it?

I think that a tight, tripwire of MF is dangerous, but a loose thread is not.
Picking up a lose thread must not be dangerous and their ability to cut
through anything must be somewhat mythological (otherwise a struggling
fish would be able to easily dislodge a hook on the stuff - either the
hook would be cut or the fish would lose his jaw.)

If anyone finds a good website with information on MF post it here, I'd like
to consider adding it to a scenario.

--Pete

From: Thomas Barclay <Thomas.Barclay@s...>

Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 17:20:10 -0500

Subject: Re: ADTDL page has lots of stuff on combat engineering

Peter spake thusly upon matters weighty:

> http://www.atsc-army.org/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/5-102/Appd.htm#s11

I'll go here later! Thanks.

> Now we just need some rules for how MF would work. There are a lot of

1. Monofilament is not necessarily monofilament. A single filament may be more
than one molecule wide. Monofilament I believe refers only to the fact it is
extruded as one filament continuously. It is many molecules thick or we
couldn't handle it. So what we are refering to is monomolecular wire which is
one molecule thick. Yes it would cut through stuff easily. It might or might
not break easily. How would you store it? on spools of superdense alloy (maybe
microthin to keep the weight down) so that they don't let it
penetrate/cut. Plus all molecules aren't the same width. I think
'practical' monofilament wire might be 5 or 10 molecules thick. A hell of a
lot stronger than 1 molecule I'd imagine, big enough to still be a problem to
handle and really really sharp, but also big enough to be stored on some
spools and deployed with equipment.

Loose monofilament could probably be pushed aside with stuff woven
from monofilament like gloves - then it wouldn't be sharp enough to
cut the weave and let you handle it (but be gosh darned careful with
it - in fact a weave bodysuit might be required to avoid random
twists causing it to slice n' dice the engineer or gropos in question).

Just some thoughts.

Fascinating stuff really.

Tom.
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