A fine mornin' gentlemen, and any of you kind ladies there as well. I am proud
to announce the forming of a new polity for the FT universe, The New
Confederate States. We are currently accepting applications for
citizenship from any of those dis-enchanted living in the Old South
under the current thumb of the NAC, as well as any others who would wish
to join us out here on the Rim. We presently hold one garden world, a truly
lovely sight it is, which we have given the old, revered name of Dixie. Please
come and visit us, experience old Southern hospitality, and please make any
comments on our new web site, now open at;
http://www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/2891/ncs.html
There is presently a short comment on the forming of the NCS, as well as
our first two full ships, the Chickamauga class Corvette, and the Atlanta
class Frigate. More to follow as time permits.
Ya'll come!
> jim clem wrote:
Yet another unofficial power.
So far we have the Alarishi, New Roman Empire, New Confederate States, Union
of Border Worlds, Free Ukranians, New Sicilians, New Serbia, and New Tiblisi
(last four are supporting cast for NRE) who else?
Methinks I'm going to put together a "minor power central" page listing all
homebrew nations out there on the web. If you're not on the list above, let me
know. Nations mentioned in Canonical material need not apply.:)
Side note: Of the four above (not counting the spin-off background from
the NRE-verse), two split off from the NAC. Interesting.
BTW, how many independant minor nations not affiliated with any of the Terran
superstates do y'all see as existing? My rule of thumb in my
NRE-verse has been that for every star colonized by an official
expedition and still under control of their patron power, there is another
which was settled by disidents, has sucessfully revolted, or otherwise has few
ties to Mother Terra and her beauracrats. Ratio is higher for former EU
colonies which had a beautiful chance to break away when the French and
Germans went at it. Independants tend to be on the
fringes of settled space and/or marginal planets.
> A fine mornin' gentlemen, and any of you kind ladies there as well. I
Erm. Sounds like FCT to me.
> John M. Atkinson wrote:
> Yet another unofficial power.
I have two ideas that I've been kind of working on. One I've mentioned in
passing before and one I haven't.
The first is the simple idea that Taiwan may still be independent.
The second is an idea for a _real_ (yeah, sure) socialist republic
who split off from the ESU over ideological resaons. I see them as
being based on an inner-colony world which they share with colonies
founded by a few of the medium/small powers. They also have a couple
of colony worlds.
One of these days I may develop these ideas further. I'll let the list know
when I do.
> So far we have the Alarishi, New Roman Empire, New Confederate States,
Hey! Don't forget the Ancient and Illuminated Seers of Bavaria!
http://www.voicenet.com/~johncrim/Bavaria.html
The AaISoB pages are going to be getting a major overhaul this weekend, now
that I have finally finished the army rules for Destroy All Monsters! The
Bavarians have colonized a new world, Fernando Poo (If you have to ask, then
you aren't cleared for that), and are getting a almost entirely new navy.
I've come to the conclusion that my NSL ships, even though painted as NSL
ships, are actually Bavarians. The markings that would indicate otherwise are
there for disinformation purposes.
Fnord, everyone.
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:31:28 -0800
From: Los <los@cris.com>
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Do you have to be white to apply for citizenship?
Los
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:50:35 -0500
From: "John M. Atkinson" <john.m.atkinson@erols.com>
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Methinks I'm going to put together a "minor power central" page listing all
homebrew nations out there on the web. If you're not on the list above, let me
know. Nations mentioned in Canonical material need not apply.:)
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:13:09 -0800
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
From: Sean Bayan Schoonmaker <schoon@aimnet.com>
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> A fine mornin' gentlemen, and any of you kind ladies there as well. I
Erm. Sounds like FCT to me.
> Los wrote:
> Interesting side note: Imagine a future GZZ ECC that decides the fate
I wouldn't be too worried--if they were coming after a major star system
(New Rome, Thrace), the NRE (and most other powers, I presume) has large
sublight garissons (primarily Cerebus-class SDBs, but with other ships
converted. My rule of thumb is to rip out the FTL and add the equivelant in
armor, making them tough little escorts indeed). In fact, I'd say it would be
almost impossible to capture a core system of any major power without a really
massive fleet action. Large enough so that
in the multi-polar GZG-verse, while A's entire fleet is off beating the
hell out of B, C is going to take the chance to snag a half-dozen
colonies from A. All the while watching out for D, who might jump into the
fray on either side.
> jim clem wrote:
Good sir, I do believe that I will partake or your fine web site. However, my
frail constitution does not permit me to make such a journey. I would not what
to catch a case of the vapors. In the meantime, might I interest you in
another mint julep?
> On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, John M. Atkinson wrote:
[snip]
> Yet another unofficial power.
Well, the K'rathri are lurking just outside of known space, somewhere near the
Enigma Sector:)
I'm working up a website for them now - should be up in a couple of
weeks.
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:14:02 -0600
From: "Mark A. Siefert" <cthulhu@csd.uwm.edu>
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Good sir, I do believe that I will partake or your fine web site. However, my
frail constitution does not permit me to make such a journey. I would not what
to catch a case of the vapors. In the meantime, might I interest you in
another mint julep?
jim clem wrote in reply to Schoon's reply to him:
> >A fine mornin' gentlemen, and any of you kind ladies there as well.
I
> >am proud to announce the forming of a new polity for the FT universe,
Free Cal-Tex, ie California, Texas and presumably the territory between
them at least. Also controls two planets (Austin and Fenris, later
re-named New Pasadena). They split off from the NAC in 2159.
Unless my geography is hopelessly confused Jim is talking more or less about
the cultural heritage from the south Missisippi valley and eastward,
which of course lies entirely outside the FCT's area of interest :-)
Later,
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From: "Oerjan Ohlson" <oerjan.ohlson@telia.com>
To: <gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:50:22 +0100
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> If you please, kindly define FCT.
Free Cal-Tex, ie California, Texas and presumably the territory between
them at least. Also controls two planets (Austin and Fenris, later
re-named New Pasadena). They split off from the NAC in 2159.
Unless my geography is hopelessly confused Jim is talking more or less about
the cultural heritage from the south Missisippi valley and eastward,
which of course lies entirely outside the FCT's area of interest :-)
Later,
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Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:24:51 -0800
From: Los <los@cris.com>
To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: A new power to deal with, The New Confederate States
Reply-To: gzg-l@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
> Main Site: http://www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/2891
BTW this is a nice looking site.
Los
Do you have to be white to apply for citizenship?
Los
> jim clem wrote:
> A fine mornin' gentlemen, and any of you kind ladies there as well. I
> John M. Atkinson wrote:
> Methinks I'm going to put together a "minor power central" page
I thiunk that's a good idea.
> Side note: Of the four above (not counting the spin-off background
Yes very.
> BTW, how many independant minor nations not affiliated with any of the
I'm sure the Kra'Vak or someother nasty Alien race (the bugs) will come round
and reduce the count sometime in 2200...
> John M. Atkinson wrote:
> I wouldn't be too worried--if they were coming after a major star
I hear ya bro. I guess what I was really think about was a fight for survival.
Not a Weberesque Insurrection or a Crusades thing, but something more along
the lines of On death's ground. An alien race bent on the elimination of
Humanity. Don't either bother capturing planets
unless you need to set up a human-based cattle farm...
Something that will introduce some real pucker factor. (Maybe someone
can bring a hand-smelter to melt down destroyed ship minis and recast
them into the victor's fleet of choice.) <g>
This way future generations of FT/DS/SG players could honor us as ghods,
having secured their freedom to game whatever power they like, or conversely,
slave on underneath the bondage of having to game some vile alien race, never
more to hear of such graceful names as the Ticonderoga, MarkGraf, DeGaul,
Ajax, Kutzenov, Antioch, etc etc.
Oh the Humanity!!
> Main Site: http://www.geocities.com/area51/stargate/2891
BTW this is a nice looking site.
> Steve Pugh wrote:
Reminds me of the independent FT background I'm trying to piece
together. The plot revolves a group of Anarcho-capitalist planets
colonized by humans who left earth because of the continued expansion of
government. (read Heinlein or Smith) When earth re-discovers their
"runaway children," they mount a military campaign to re-establish what
they deem to be order on these "barbaric" worlds. I'm also throwing in pirates
and aliens to add some variety. So far, I've been trying to piece together
some new systems for this
genre--a new defense system, new weapons, a new jump drive. I was
hoping to finish it over the holidays, and put it up on the web. However, real
life got in the way as usual.
> So far we have the Alarishi, New Roman Empire, New Confederate States,
There is the Khalifate also. And I'd argue for a revived Knights Templar
order, fighting against the Kra'Vak.
> BTW, how many independant minor nations not affiliated with any of the
I would start off by assuming most planets have room for at least a few
settlements (say roll 2d6?) to get really choice spots, and they can expand
out from there. Thus you could have a NAC planet with, say, Polish, Bantu, and
Hindi contingents in addition to the four NAC districts. Lots of room for
dissidents.
> Laserlight wrote:
> There is the Khalifate also. And I'd argue for a revived Knights
Added. Along with the IAS (which I've taken the liberty of setting up a joint
settlement with the NRE, will remove if requested), the K'rathri, New Jordan,
and revised the background for the UBW.
http://www.angelfire.com/va/basileus/unofficial.html
> out from there. Thus you could have a NAC planet with, say, Polish,
That too.
G'day John,
> Added. Along with the IAS (which I've taken the liberty of setting up
Nice. The IAS bit's great thanks. As for the settlement, I think its a great
idea
- just the kind of thing I'd envisaged. One thing though, the IAS is
friendly with
the FSE.... does that mean the joint-colony just got terminated? ;)
(If not it'd leave the way open for some interesting
scenarios/wrangling...)
Cheers
Beth
> Beth Fulton wrote:
> Nice. The IAS bit's great thanks. As for the settlement, I think its a
We don't like the FSE, but if the only way we can get that sort of specialized
equipment, technicians, and experience working with Artic
conditions is to cut a deal with the Frank-loving IAS, we do it. And
learn to like it. Politics makes strange bedfellows, and all that.:)
Just remember--we've got a mechanized division (well, part of it.
Actually, all of it except two maneuver regiments) there, so no funny stuff.:)
> Los wrote:
> Something that will introduce some real pucker factor. (Maybe someone
I've played in several Microarmour games where prisoners were given to the
other side.