John Atkinson schrieb:
> --- Thomas Barclay <kaladorn@magma.ca> wrote:
Well, yes. But that was at least two centuries ago. Almost any nation had a
good army at some point in time. If we extrapolate from the present situation,
I would place the Swiss at the same level with the Scanfed. Either raise the
Scanfed to 2nd rate (my preference) or move the Swiss down for the same
reasons as the Scandinavians. I personally
feel TomBs reason for downgrading them are rather suspect. Present-day
Scandinavian nations have some pretty good equipment, a fair degree of
peace-keeping experience - certainly more than the Swiss - and they
certainly have enough wilderness for large scale exercises, more than the
Swiss.
Greetings
Wilderness we have, indeed. Money we have not. I feel like Yoda now. Our gear
is good though. But the modern stuff we have is only in sufficient numbers to
train with, all we have in case of a crisis is G3 assault rifles in abundance.
Everything mobilization worthy has been scrapped. While Finland and Norway
seem to have good soldier material (personell wise), Sweden and Denmark do
not. Thats purely based on those representatives I've met when I served. A
great majority have lax dicipline, bad dress code, and a general unsoldierly
manner. That this could continue to this timeline isn't very likely though. If
Sweden is to be a leading nation in a federation, there has be be a
significant change in government. And for us to venture into space or engage
in an armed conflict, theres gonna be an even bigger need for a change.
(Sorry, I'm quite bitter atm):)
> --- KH.Ranitzsch@t-online.de wrote:
> Johan wrote:
> Our gear is good though. But the modern stuff we have is only in
> assault rifles in abundance. Everything mobilization worthy has been
Well, no - we still have lots of Carl Gustafs and AT4s as well ;-)
'Course, those are the earliest models of AT4s, and IIRC the most modern HEAT
ammo
Sweden has for its CGs is m/75... the Baltic states have vastly more
modern CG ammo than Sweden has
:-/ Indeed, some Swedish Army CG instructors sent to the Balts were
quite shocked to find out that their pupils (using modern ammo) could hit
targets at about three times the range the instructors could (using outdated
ammo)...
'Course, the ScanFed is almost two hundred years into the future. I sincerely
hope that we manage to change our government at least once before
then, even if the latest election forecasts don't look too promising :-7
Later,
hundred years
> into the future. I
Oh god, I hope so too.:)